I didn't even have to see that Joke of a fight on Versus 2nite to know what's going to happen if Arum allows Clottey to get in there with Cotto!! But watching the fight; I had to make this thread!
I KNOW for a fact Cotto is going to punish him if the fight is ever made, but it seems a lot of people are over-estimating Clottey's abilities (or lack of) and under-estimating what Miguel can do. Clottey is a good basic fighter, he will NEVER beat an ELITE pugilist! People are going to say "Well, Clottey was beating Margarito ass until he broke his hand!" I beg to differ...
In every fight i've seen Clottey in he's starts out good, working both head & body coming out of that Air tight D...but it usually only last for a 4-5rds. Clottey has poor stamina/conditioning (sometimes taking full rounds off), below average foot-work (not effective going backwards or w/ lateral movement, & He doesn't move his head (sucker for the jab, & str8 rights)
I'm not saying Miguel is perfect, but he is PROVEN against ELITE opposition! I'm pretty sure Cotto would get rocked early, stay behind his jab & wear Clottey out with a good array of punches to make him quit on his stool (claiming a broken jaw, or some fake injury) around the 9th or 10th rd!
Did someone seriously say Clottey has stamina issues? The guy runs like 8 miles per day. He probably has more stamina/conditioning than anyone in the division.
That said, I think a fight with Cotto would be interesting but I would lean towards Cotto's body work earning him a decision.
I didn't even have to see that Joke of a fight on Versus 2nite to know what's going to happen if Arum allows Clottey to get in there with Cotto!! But watching the fight; I had to make this thread!
I KNOW for a fact Cotto is going to punish him if the fight is ever made, but it seems a lot of people are over-estimating Clottey's abilities (or lack of) and under-estimating what Miguel can do. Clottey is a good basic fighter, he will NEVER beat an ELITE pugilist! People are going to say "Well, Clottey was beating Margarito ass until he broke his hand!" I beg to differ...
In every fight i've seen Clottey in he's starts out good, working both head & body coming out of that Air tight D...but it usually only last for a 4-5rds. Clottey has poor stamina/conditioning (sometimes taking full rounds off), below average foot-work (not effective going backwards or w/ lateral movement, & He doesn't move his head (sucker for the jab, & str8 rights)
I'm not saying Miguel is perfect, but he is PROVEN against ELITE opposition! I'm pretty sure Cotto would get rocked early, stay behind his jab & wear Clottey out with a good array of punches to make him quit on his stool (claiming a broken jaw, or some fake injury) around the 9th or 10th rd!
well im a Cotto & Clottey fan and ive seen plenty of Josh Clottey fights and i think his stamina is fine and i think he would give Cotto trouble im not sure if he would win but Clottey would make it tough for Cotto
Clottey is a good counter puncher with a tight defence who goes to the body very well with the left hook he is also fairly quick ,Cotto would not get rid of Clottey thats for sure cause Clottey cant take a good shot & he is a tough kid
I didn't even have to see that Joke of a fight on Versus 2nite to know what's going to happen if Arum allows Clottey to get in there with Cotto!! But watching the fight; I had to make this thread!
I KNOW for a fact Cotto is going to punish him if the fight is ever made, but it seems a lot of people are over-estimating Clottey's abilities (or lack of) and under-estimating what Miguel can do. Clottey is a good basic fighter, he will NEVER beat an ELITE pugilist! People are going to say "Well, Clottey was beating Margarito ass until he broke his hand!" I beg to differ...
In every fight i've seen Clottey in he's starts out good, working both head & body coming out of that Air tight D...but it usually only last for a 4-5rds. Clottey has poor stamina/conditioning (sometimes taking full rounds off), below average foot-work (not effective going backwards or w/ lateral movement, & He doesn't move his head (sucker for the jab, & str8 rights)
I'm not saying Miguel is perfect, but he is PROVEN against ELITE opposition! I'm pretty sure Cotto would get rocked early, stay behind his jab & wear Clottey out with a good array of punches to make him quit on his stool (claiming a broken jaw, or some fake injury) around the 9th or 10th rd!
The thing I find troubling about Clottey's supposedly injured left hand against Margarito is that he kept throwing it about 6 to 1 over his allegedly good right hand. Alot of those shots with his left were full power later in the fight. Not bad for a severe injury. :wtf:
wasn't impressed with clottey at all tonight. i've seen both guys fight before, and i feel like clottey should have gotten alvarez out of there by the mid-late rounds. no disrespect to alvarez, he kept coming.
cotto, or any elite ww would take care of clottey relatively easily in my opinion. but cintron is still pretty green, and even with cintron's power, i think clottey could give him all kinds of hell.
I think Joshua Clottey is a good fighter, but he lacks the power needed to keep up with the WW Big Names. He will lose to Cotto, Cintron, Williams, Mosley.
ill admit.. i do think he can beat cotto.. his performance was OK tonight.. i was disapointed as well..
i think hell put up a good fight.. and yes, still stand my by word and pik clotty to win. i wouldnt count on it. i just think hes a tough SOB
yeah im not even that surprised that he couldn't kayo Alverez
but its very disapointing when Clottey's in there having his
way with his opponent yet can't close the show.
and even the Corrales fight .. with all due respect to Diego .. you put Cotto or Cintron in there instead and they seal the deal
Clottey really shouldn't be back pedaling vs Alvarez.
I think a lot of it has to do with his mentality! Did anyone see him coming out Dancing with a big "kool-aid" grin on his face 2nite? Take the Margarito fight for instance, he came out strong behind his jab, countering looking good...then once Marg started throwing his punches in bunches around the 5th round Clottey went into retreat (he can say he broke his hand, maybe he did, but this a consistent pattern through out his career) Even in the Corrales fight, (R.I.P.) he leaned on Diego & sucked up whatever was thrown a him, B/c Corrales was a career lightweight & he was able to take some "rounds off" without any danger...we saw him knock him down twice in the 9th or 10th round; if Clottey wanted to he could have stopped him! Joshua has talent no doubt, but it seems he is just content with that! He doesn't want to put the WORK in necessary...
That's what separated the good from the greats... more specifically the difference between Contenders and Champions!
I think Clottey is very good fighter, but i agree, he proved tonight that his body is so open for sweeping body shots, which is basically Cotto's specialty.
Cotto would stop Clottey with body shots.
Clottey is a VERY tough challenge for Cintron, i would definetly go with Clottey in that fight
If only Clottey had a jab...
You can't let powerful guys like Cotto bang on your arms and body. Cotto would definitely beat the crap out of Clottey. If I was Cotto I would take this fight immediately because he's a well-respected contender who will give you a good test and a good KO win.
yeah a lotta people do over rate Clottey and it really does him no justice. Joshua Clottey is very talented no doubt. however
Clottey was in there tonight with an inexperienced, over matched opponent who he was having his way with, and couldn't get the kayo
hey Clottey won tonight by UD and was never in danger of losing the fight.
but im still a bit disapointed.