Reflexes are the first to go, power is the LAST.
I go with this. Reflexes are the most important. When older fighters say "I just couldn't pull the trigger when I saw openings" it's not because their speed is gone, it's their reflexes. Their synapses just don't fire quick enough, whether it's from too many shots to the head or from simple aging processes is debatable.
I remember thinking this when I was watching Hatton beat Tszyu. Tszyu just couldn't fire off the right hand enough. There were openings throughout the whole night for it and Lewis, his trainer, kept on saying "You have to throw the right hand. You can beat this guy easily, just throw it!", but unfortunately he couldn't and thats the biggest sign of a fighter thats grown old. You can see it in nearly every fight with an aging fighter.
reflexes go first, look at how jones, toney, wright, have become a lot easier to hit as they got older
True but reflexes don't do you any good without the speed to move you the hell out of the way. Combination of speed and reflexes, I'd say. Guys like Foreman, that never had any speed to begin with, last much longer in the sport.
Can i have examples of this? Bernard, Ali, Foreman, Chavez all held up from being knocked out cold from one punch, dont base this off of Roy Jones Jr now, ha.
JCC, Gatti, Corrales, Joe Louis, Tyson
If you have a good chin, it will deteriorate to that of a normal chin, but the constant sparring and fighting has a toll of the brain.
In boxing terms of course. When a fighter becomes "out of his prime" what is the first thing to go?
I say reflexes and timing. What do you think?
Reflexes and speed, not neccessarily timing though.
Can i have examples of this? Bernard, Ali, Foreman, Chavez all held up from being knocked out cold from one punch, dont base this off of Roy Jones Jr now, ha.
Foreman was never knocked out cold from one punch. He went down from an accumulation of many punches vs Ali, combined with extreme exhaustion, and his head never hit the canvas.
Yeah thank god. Left hook to the face to the body was a beautiful thing to watch against hanshaw. And how he could land that uppercut.
"Oh the uppercut."
Yeah. That combo against the ropes that knocked Hanshaw down was insanley fast. I actually thought Roy looked good in that fight, I liked how he was fighting back off the ropes.
Definitely his hair.
haha, that made me laugh.
On a serious note it is definetely reflexes, it is the same in all sports. Being boxing or Badminton, there has to come point when the body does't carry out what the brain tells it to do.
In boxing terms of course. When a fighter becomes "out of his prime" what is the first thing to go?
I say reflexes and timing. What do you think?
Definitely his hair.
Yeah thank god. Left hook to the face to the body was a beautiful thing to watch against hanshaw. And how he could land that uppercut.
"Oh the uppercut."
Foot speed. I watched Roy Jones vs Anthony Hanshaw the other day...wow. Where was his speed? Age is a bitch.
Roy still has 90-95% of his hand speed though.
The legs go first. Foot speed, balance, agility all suffer and a fighter finds himself just out of position, unable to take advantage of openings, and at the same time open for others to take advantage.
Then the reflexes go - the fighter just can't "get off". Hand speed goes from quick to just adequate.
Then the chin.
Then power.
Smarts stay for a long time, fwiw.
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