If Pavlik beats Taylor and then beats Calzaghe

Wouldn't you then have a reasonable case for saying he's the best boxer in the world right now. I think he's the best thing going right now regardless but compared to maybe Floyd? Yeah Floyd goes up and down weight classes and that makes some good matches but the thing is, is that I dont if he's ever beaten a real #1 fighter, De La Hoya is a #1 fighter but in terms of what he's done lately it's not that much and also Floyd isn't always that impressive in his wins. I mean I wouldn't have expected him to stop De La Hoya or back him up. I guess he did what he could in that fight but the descision was very close regardless. I dont know who Floyd could beat that would be similar to Pavlik beating Calzaghe, De La Hoya is alot better than Calzaghe but not in his last several fights and I really belive he could have done alot more against Mayweather. I'm talking about P4P status here.

Comments (20)

Motofan

He will beat Taylor again, but he wouldnt beat Calzaghe. Kessler is bigger (again not height wise) then Pavlik and he did everything he could against Joe and lost clearly. Kelly would lose the same way.

18y ago

The_Troll

kind of like Joe? Not at all like Joe to me.

18y ago

kayjay

The kind of fighter I think gives Pavlik alot of problems is a slippery sneaky counter puncher that can move and really crack hard. kind of like Joe?

18y ago

Jcsuper

Yeah Ferocity is done in boxing chat.....the thread I have posted him in..has offically eneded his "career" Hey I missed that thread ?? Can you show me

18y ago

The_Troll

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ why dont you just put that in 1 post? I'd rather just do that than make edits.

18y ago

The_Troll

That's what Kessler was doing the whole fight agaisnt Calzaghe. Trying to set him up for one perfect counter punch and end the fight that way. I dont think that's what his corner wanted him to do, but it seemed like that was his plan.

18y ago

The_Troll

The kind of fighter I think gives Pavlik alot of problems is a slippery sneaky counter puncher that can move and really crack hard.

18y ago

The_Troll

I think Calzaghe would have drastically alter the way he usuallly fights against Pavlik. And I dont know what way that is either.

18y ago

The_Troll

I havnt seen that fight I still whatever the case I think Pavlik gives Calzaghe problems.

18y ago

Deeznuts

Wow, that's a big IIFFFFFFF

18y ago

The_Troll

Kessler is MORE rangy and BETTER at range than Pavlik, though he does have a slightly slower workrate. I agree with what Kayjay said, you can't come straight at Calzaghe because his fists will throw a party on your face. I dont think he is more rangy, not at all. Even if Mikkel may have slightly longer arms he doesn't fight like it, he does't fight tall nearly as well as Pavlik. I dont think Calzaghe would be able to throw punches over the top at Pavlik and control the fight that way.

18y ago

The_Troll

I love Sugar Shane, and if it were Mosley at Lightweight, I could maybe give him an edge, or call it too close, but right now... definitely Mayweather. I agree with you.

18y ago

The_Troll

That would be quite impressive if Pavlik pulled that off. I still don't know though. Maybe if he beat Calzaghe and then moved up to LHW and beat a top guy there. While that would be quite impressive I don't think it tops Floyd who has won titles at 5 different weight classes. Just my opinion. What would be the point of that though? That's when I start to dislike guys moving around weight classes when they're doing it just for the sake of it, not because it makes good matches or they'd be better suited at a different weight class.

18y ago

DIEGO_DA_HITMAN

I love Sugar Shane, and if it were Mosley at Lightweight, I could maybe give him an edge, or call it too close, but right now... definitely Mayweather.

18y ago

The_Troll

Not that I think Pavlik is slow but Floyd's handspeed is tremendous. What do you think of his handspeed compared to Mosely's? Floyds handspeed I mean.

18y ago

The_Troll

Floyd is way way way way way faster hands.

18y ago

The_Troll

Do you honestly think Pavlik's hand speed is even close to Mayweather's? That's a bad idea if you're a Pavlik fan. I didn't but how relevant is that?

18y ago

DIEGO_DA_HITMAN

settle it in a skills competition. fasted fighter to land 200 punches on a heavybag. Do you honestly think Pavlik's hand speed is even close to Mayweather's? That's a bad idea if you're a Pavlik fan.

18y ago

Super_Lightweight

If Pavlik somehow pulled that off (which he won't) then yes he is p4p number one, tied with Floyd.

18y ago

The_Troll

That's even what Kessler's corner was saying throughout the whole fight. Mikkel Mikkel you have to go at him. But Mikkel is not as rangy and as powerfull at range as Pavlik, nor does he have the workrate.

18y ago