Calzaghe/Kessler does lowest ratings ever for HBO

He was delighted. He got a ringside seat for free. Did you see the price of those?

Live gate @M-Stadium in Cardiff (sold-out) expect to be over 7M pound, which is more than 14,000,000 $. This can match with 300k PPV-BUys. But there are also British TV-Right and HBO-Money. SO a fight in Wales would make more sense. If Hopkins wants to fight in the US GBP should make an offer which is more than Joe can get in the UK. Nobody said that Joe is a big draw in the US, but in GB he is a much bigger draw than Hopkins will ever be in the US. Also the promo for this fight was very bady. There wasn't even a Countdown. Also the numbers are telling how famous Joe was b4 the fight, not now.

Wow. So, to summarise, people are shocked that a fight held outside the US between two non-septics didn't get as many viewers as a usual world title fight between Americans? Really? Well, that's just a fucking shock. Mind you, I bet more watched it over there than have watched all of Popkins' fights combined in the UK. I think the yanks are missing the fact that boxing works different over here. Boxing is on prime time television here where millions can and do watch them. Hell, even this shite crop of heavyweights get millions of viewers. Ordinary got £1m. (approx $300m at the current exchange rate) for a few fights against bums on the BBC. The TV companies shell out money on the fights which they recoup on advertising revenue and subscriptions in the case of Sky and now Setanta. And then there's the gate receipts. Tickets for Calzaghe or Hatton aint cheap. The cheapest for the Kessler bout was $80 and the most expensive was upwards of $1000. Gate receipts were massive for that fight. Millions of pounds and dollars massive. Its different economics. Which is why Calzaghe earns more at home than Hopkins did for a PPV spectacular against P4P Winky. And considerably more than the derisory amount that he's being offered to go over there. And yet nobody would dream of Hopkins taking a pay cut to come over here to fight. Strange that.

Proves that Americans don't want any part of anything that doesn't involve themselves. A fight between two elite undefeated champions in Wales, would people rather watch Malignaggi vs N'Dou and fights like that? its likewise with the english who arent boxing fans outside of their own, so what the fuck does that have to do anything? how many casual fans of boxing know names outside of calz, kahn, harrison and hatton.

It doesn't shock me that it did so poorly. This fight was the hardcore fan's dream, not a casual's. For Calzaghe, even the casual Brit takes interest. So he is a HUGE draw in the UK. Hopkins though loses to Joe wherever its held. I prefer it be in the states so I can go, but that is my biased opinion. Trully if Kessler was an American, he would be a HUGE draw. Hopkins does better numbers but isn't an overly big draw himself here. And his last outing was a boring affair. Hopkins had a good fight with Tarver, but I fell asleep during the replays of 3 of his last 4 fights. Honestly, I have yet to finish either Hopkins/Taylor fight. I like Bernard, his business savvy is remarkable, true credit to GoldenBoy. But he was never an exciting fighter and never trully a really big draw. He was more or less his generations Pernell Whitaker in that sense. its foolish to assume that just being american means youre a huge draw by that im talking about kessler being this huge draw. Pavlik is on the same level as kessler, hes a huge draw in his area, but thats about it. America is STACKED..let me say this again, STACKED with outstanding talent in practically every sport. The competition for stardom in this country is big, being good in this country usually isnt enough, you need to have something, weather its an outstanding fight record, or just vicious KO power against good competition, something, you need to be more than just good. Kessler is good, but there is nothing about him that suggests hed be this big draw in america when we have a shitload of good fighters like kessler who arent big draws.

they are draws over there.... just not america. Calslappy is still a great fighter... and kessler is one fo the best. They just aren't marketable in America... people don't care for them over here.... well people that aren't boxers don't. now if they fought in wales it'd be a huge draw. just not america. point blank period.

This just further proves the argument that Joe is ducking B-hop (or perhaps he is being advised not to fight him). His ratings suck. He should feel lucky that someone has big as Hopkins is willing to fight him. He will make a lot of money off that fight. Hopefully he figures this out and they make it happen in '08. How the fuck does this prove that? Because the Americans don't follow him, this means he's ducking Hopkins? Calzaghe is undefeated, has been the Champion for ten years and has just come off his biggest win. Why would he possibly duck Hopkins???

I think Joe & Frank need to have their heads checked if they think they can dictate terms with Bernard, Roy or any other top flight American. :rolleyes: Why!...........what else has Bernard got on the cards, what has he got in front of him now, a re-match against Trinidad or Jones Jnr, couple of fading Dinosaurs! That fight might (although it almost couldn't be possible) turn out to be more boring than the Winky fight! If Bernard backs off Calzaghe again all he'll be remembered for in England is the guy who ducked Calzaghe twice! What other top flight Americans are you talking about, Taylor? Pavlik? They should appreciate the fact that Calzaghe is even mentioning there name, completely unproven compared to Calzaghe! As far as Joe fighting guys who deserve respect, he's already proved all he has to with Kessler, as Kessler next to Joe is by far the best fighter in and around super-middleweight division!

I keep telling you that British fighters are garbage and you won't listen. Why because the yanks don't watch the fights??? Its called not looking further than your nose i.e. anything outside of the States is not worth watching, give me a fucking break. Where are the hoards of American or World superstars lining up to tear the belts from Calzaghe at SMW??? There aren't any? Next fight Light Heavy.

Proves that Americans don't want any part of anything that doesn't involve themselves. A fight between two elite undefeated champions in Wales, would people rather watch Malignaggi vs N'Dou and fights like that?

I think the figures highlight the ignorance of American fans as opposed to calzaghe's status.

Calzaghe can fill an 80,000 stadium. Can Mayweather, Hopkins, Toney, Lacy? Thought not. No, but they can sell PPVs and Joe cannot. You make more money off PPVs than you do in live gates because you can sell to so many more people. You can only fit so many people in a stadium but PPV sales are only limited by the number of televisions out there.

Hopkins should just fight Calzaghe over seas, ain't Europe money worth more then American money?

It doesn't shock me that it did so poorly. This fight was the hardcore fan's dream, not a casual's. For Calzaghe, even the casual Brit takes interest. So he is a HUGE draw in the UK. Hopkins though loses to Joe wherever its held. I prefer it be in the states so I can go, but that is my biased opinion. Trully if Kessler was an American, he would be a HUGE draw. Hopkins does better numbers but isn't an overly big draw himself here. And his last outing was a boring affair. Hopkins had a good fight with Tarver, but I fell asleep during the replays of 3 of his last 4 fights. Honestly, I have yet to finish either Hopkins/Taylor fight. I like Bernard, his business savvy is remarkable, true credit to GoldenBoy. But he was never an exciting fighter and never trully a really big draw. He was more or less his generations Pernell Whitaker in that sense.

I'm not sure how the rating system works for a cable subscription service like HBO, but if it's the same as regular TV, I think doing a 2.8 is a pretty solid number when you consider the fight was between two European fighters in a non-traditional weight class.

It really wouldn't? 65,000 fans with tickets ranging from $100 to $1800, us Brits love a drink so you can guarantee hundreds of thousands of pounds (millions of dollars) is going to be made from that, food and water is a necessity which will also bring in ALOT of cash with a crowd that huge, the list goes on and on. So from that ONE night of boxing alone, you're looking at ATLEAST 10 million pounds of profit, and even after everybody has taken their cut, what's being thrown in the kitty will definitely boost up the fighter's purse, mainly Calzaghe's shitty 2 million dollar offer which would possibly double if the fight happens to take place here. So yeah, it really would. It wouldn't, Shane. Trust me.

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It didn't, and your point is exactly what I was suggesting. great minds think alike.. except for the whole gay sex thing.. u fucking homo! :nonono:

it wanst an american evernt ..what american fight has 50 thousand ppl!

Only reason the rating were bad is because america doesn't know who they are.. Bernard fighting in the U.K. should fix that and they would sell big. I highly doubt Hopkins v Wright did big in the UK