in a nutshell, why is the WBO belt the least respected of the 'big 4'?
I've heard a lot of people shoot Joe down for only holding the WBO belt for 10 years, and i remember people kicking up a stink when Prince Nas only held the WBO belt.
That's actually Japan's fault. They refuse to recongize the WBO and the IBF. I wish they started because I would love to see a unification bout with Donaire and Daisuke.
As per the IBF, that's the sanctioning body's fault. Japan won't recognize it because of the bribery scandal.
Larry Holmes earlier dumped the WBC belt in favor of the, then, newly organized IBF (officially named IBF-USBA) back in 1983, thereby giving the group it's first diaper of some form of legitimacy. Today, however, the IBF has champs like Fana,who took the title from Klassen, who took the title from St. Clair, who took the title from Baloyi, who took it after Barrera (who had taken it from Peden in a unification match) saw no use for it.
Wonder if Fana sleeps well knowing that the guy who owns the IBF belt in the division above him is named Juan Diaz and the one below him is Robert Guerrero.
AS for the WBO...At about the time that Duran gave up the WBC belt, Tommy Hearns was the WBO SuperMiddle champ (its first), and fought Sugar Ray Leonard to a draw with that belt at stake. Hearns vacated the WBO throne in '91 giving way to the meeting between Eubank and Michael Watson, both of whom had met just months earlier for the WBO Middleweight crown.
It was surely in the mid-90's that the WBO started getting some credibility with champions like Barrera, Oscar De La Hoya, Popo Frietas, Johnny Tapia...and yes, Eubank and Benn.
But with all that, I confess that I sometimes forget about the WBO, as I sometimes do about the IBF.
good points, agreed the champ makes the title, not the belt.
WBU and IBO are TOTAL jokes surely?
there appears to be no solid arguement to disrespect the WBO, but WBC make the prettiest belts so there my favourite.
theyre all the same 2 me! i consider wbu and ibo and ibas world titles too! as in the view that eveygy in the world is allowed to fight for it nulike regional ot national or continental titles!
Yeah I agree. Though,
The Ring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them by a mile.
But still, anyone else find it funny that the IBO's computer rankings have their champion ranked at 9 for the welterweight divison. Shouldn't he be #1? Hahahaha.
The WBA has three Cruiserweight Champions. That's the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
True, the super champion shit is a discrace. I think the WBA is the biggest joke of the "big 4".
that dont mean shit..
just bcoz they are the first dont mean they are the most RESPECTED.
there is no correlation to establishment and respect
just coz that prick Mayweather only collects WBC belts, dont mean shit..
FRANKLY I DON'T CARE FOR ALL THE BELTS ANY WAY.
I just can't stand the WBA's Super Champ BS
And the IBF's agenda with keeping their belts outta Japan
That's actually Japan's fault. They refuse to recongize the WBO and the IBF. I wish they started because I would love to see a unification bout with Donaire and Daisuke.
computer based rankings > don kings money
anyday!!
Well maybe rankings wise they are better, but have you seen their champions list?
http://www.iboboxing.com/champions.html
Look. Only Ricky Hatton, Wlad, and Donaire are really only the actual best of their divsions. I mean who the fuck is Isaac Hlatshwayo?
And the IBF doesn't have that bad of ratings.
http://i9.tinypic.com/8eqdjr6.png
that dont mean shit..
just bcoz they are the first dont mean they are the most RESPECTED.
there is no correlation to establishment and respect
just coz that prick Mayweather only collects WBC belts, dont mean shit..
If you think about it, the WBO probably has a better reputation than all the other belts. Other than ranking a dead guy of course.
Recently they've had good Champions. Wlad, Calzaghe, Calderon, Margarito, Cotto, Taylor, Mormeck, Guzman, Diaz have all held or hold the WBO belt now.
Well yeah, the WBC and the WBA were the felt two bodies, but that still doesn't change the crap they pull off nowadays.
That and the Super Champion stuff is the WBA.
That's a pretty bad joke man. the WBC and the IBF belts are better then the WBO, IBO (which I don't really count as a major title. I mean I don't consider Tarver a champion anymore), and the WBA.
Personally, I think the WBA is a lot worse then the WBO with all their super champion bullshit.
computer based rankings > don kings money
anyday!!
That's a pretty bad joke man. the WBC and the IBF belts are better then the WBO, IBO (which I don't really count as a major title. I mean I don't consider Tarver a champion anymore), and the WBA.
Personally, I think the WBA is a lot worse then the WBO with all their super champion bullshit.
i thought that was the wbc?
i know the wba's lineage is part of the first belt.