Whats with all the Hopkins haters?

I don't hate on the guy, but I don't find his fights/style exciting to watch. I just find him boring and he just doesn't understand that he isn't as big a draw as he thinks he is.

Get real. He abandoned his long time MW titles and moved up to LHW, beat the recognized LHW Champ and won the belts, and then defended them against the second best pound for pound fighter in the sport. Too old my fucking ass. Abandoned his MW titles, you mean when he got BEAT TWICE by Jermaine Taylor, skipped super middle (wonder why) Tarver, who didn't even have a recognized world title (IBO and NBA don't count sorry) and had lost 2 of his last 5, and then beat a puffed up junior welter, wow what an awsome last 2 years he's had, he def deserves to be top 10 p4p at light heavy, NOT ! ! !

What I meant was, he resorts to illegal tactics to get what he wants. Sorry, but my Catholic and otherwise upright upbringing calls that a bitch move. I don't understand, and there's ill communication between us. Because to me: The four possible times you use the word "bitch" would be in reference to a female, a female dog, someone who was taken advantage of, or a reflex name call when your friend punches you in the solar plexus. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

You said he was the #2 p4p fighter at that time, dumb ass. When pacquiao is moron. lol Pac was? Because he beat who? Two washed up legends and was lucky to draw with the guy who is going to whip his ass soon? Wink beat Tito, Mosley 2x, Quartey, and Beat Taylor 115-113 but wasn't given what most people thought should have been the win. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

That right there tells me you don't know your ass from a hole in the wall. You said he was the #2 p4p fighter at that time, dumb ass. When Pacquiao is moron, I was just correcting you.

Yeah Winky was the #5 p4p fighter alright, . That right there tells me you don't know your ass from a hole in the wall. There's really no point in furthering this debate. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Get real. He abandoned his long time MW titles and moved up to LHW, beat the recognized LHW Champ and won the belts, and then defended them against the second best pound for pound fighter in the sport. Too old my fucking ass. Yeah Winky was the #5 p4p fighter alright, but that don't mean shit. I bet it must of been difficult for Bernard to bully a fighter who punches like a welterweight and at the same time being naturally bigger then him. If you really want to see Hopkins show his age, he should fight against Dawson, because he will get murdered, literally. Better yet let's see him fight against Calzaghe, if that fight ever happens.

Yeah but at 42 years old I don't think he can win anymore, not against some of the top fighters at least. Get real. He abandoned his long time MW titles and moved up to LHW, beat the recognized LHW Champ and won the belts, and then defended them against the second best pound for pound fighter in the sport. Too old my fucking ass. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

I'm one of those type of fans where I can never hate on a boxer that knows how to win period...I pay for watching winners win, no matter how its done...u may call it boring, but I call it being tactical and smart, the game is like surgery to them (hopkins, floyd, etc.)...even I like sluggers/pressure fighters, just as long as they know how to win and good at what they do... Hopkins knows how to win a fight, figures out a way to neutralize ur best weapon or skill which is speed in Joe's case...B-Hop thinks outside the box and uses his tools to con his way to victory...its not that Hopkins plans for his opponents best, but he plans for the worse for him...and as crazy as it sounds, Hopkins is probly the last guy u wanna go to war with...he'll just drain u.. Yeah but at 42 years old I don't think he can win anymore, not against some of the top fighters at least. Calzaghe will certainty beat him. The thing is I've noticed Hopkins skills have rapidly declined since his fight with Eastmen, and fans hate how he's been fighting sloppy while being a hard ass when it comes to negotiating fights. This is not the Hopkins that dismantled Trinidad, he can no longer neutralize an opponents best weapon. If he truly wants to prove he's the best at his division, why don't he fight Dawson? Of course he doesn't want to fight Dawson because he is going to murder him, on top of that he's not a big name yet. I understand he's 42 years old and will be very cautious on who he picks, but he should retire now.

Jeebus. Dont you know that a man's character can be measured by the way he fights? That ex-con fights dirty like I've never seen. Also, he makes promises he can't keep. Shows you the kind of character that is. He is a bitch personified. Haha he's the bitch? lol no. More like the vehicle (all boxers plus boxing promotion) are his bitch. Probably boxing's biggest the bully who bitches people out of all time, end of story. Nobody has, or ever will punk Bernard Hopkins. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Yeah, but you gotta make a distinction between winning a la Pacquiao- Morales and winning a la Floyd-DelaHoya. There is really a big difference, unless you're a nuthugger. a nuthugger of winners...and Calzaghe is undefeated so u should know where I stand with him (padded record or not), he's a special talent...some say he slaps, but he wins right?...Bernard is dirty, but he wins...Hatton's workrate is 2nd to none and thats how he wins...Cotto is a great pressure fighter so he wins...Floyd is, well u know...and so on, and so on, and so on....I'm pinoy by the way, so Pacquiao won't count lol...he's the quickest pressure fighter out there!

Bernard was HOF middleweight. He hasn't been at that level of skill in a long time. I don't think most boxing watchers "hate" him. They just think that he's turned into a businessman and continues to hang around needlessly for the money. In short, Bernard is no longer relevant.

I'm one of those type of fans where I can never hate on a boxer that knows how to win period...I pay for watching winners win, no matter how its done...u may call it boring, but I call it being tactical and smart, the game is like surgery to them (hopkins, floyd, etc.)...even I like sluggers/pressure fighters, just as long as they know how to win and good at what they do... Hopkins knows how to win a fight, figures out a way to neutralize ur best weapon or skill which is speed in Joe's case...B-Hop thinks outside the box and uses his tools to con his way to victory...its not that Hopkins plans for his opponents best, but he plans for the worse for him...and as crazy as it sounds, Hopkins is probly the last guy u wanna go to war with...he'll just drain u..

its weird, everyone was praising Hopkins for beating Tarvar and now those same people are putting down Hopkins after Calzaghe's latest win...

Hopkins is a Hall of Famer. Who gives a shit what the haters say. Best Middleweight of his Time. I wonder how he would have done in his prime against Roy Jones Jr, oh wait, he fought him in his prime, Bernard LOST.:boxing:

Hopkins is a Hall of Famer. Who gives a shit what the haters say. Best Middleweight of his Time. Yeah let's get real though. Prime for Prime he'd give Hagler problems with his slickness, he'd simply wear Monzon down who couldn't deal with his punching angles, and more than likely a blown up Ray Robinson would have to be ridiculously busy..........because his defense was suspect to begin with and by today's counter punching and effective aggression standards..........throwing Jab, Right, Left hook over and over that's partially blocked and being hit with leaping uppercuts and hooking punches that smother the boxer puncher...........totally taking out of his rhythm would be his fast road to losing a fight against Hopkins in a Fantasy Matchup. No way could Robinson just take him out in the trenches at MW. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

I haven't read all this thread but did you just call calzaghe a paper champ ? If so ffs get a grip of ya self man. How can anybody who's unified the division he fights in be a paper champ ?

Hopkins is a Hall of Famer. Who gives a shit what the haters say. Best Middleweight of his Time. Of his time, with the exception of Roy Jones, sure, of all time, not in a million years.

Hopkins is a Hall of Famer. Who gives a shit what the haters say. Best Middleweight of his Time.

what beat you guys paper champs like calzaghe or haye? Their THE champions in their divisions. He doesn't have to fight either of them, I mean he must be half serious about Haye. For all the skill gulf between the two Haye is too big by fucking miles.