In your opinion is Cotto fighter of the year regardless of what happens on December 8?
"I don't want to comment on that. I think there are two finalists for fighter of the year and they're both with Top Rank. One is Cotto, the other is Pavlik. Mr. avoid all danger from any guy who could beat him shouldn't be named fighter of the year."
Are you talking about Floyd Mayweather Jr?
"When Floyd Mayweather gets into the ring with someone who has a considerable chance of beating him, maybe then you can call him fighter of the year. Not doing a sparring session with De La Hoya or making a fight with Hatton, who doesn't belong in the same ring as he does, doesn't make for a fighter of the year."
Tell Mr. Arum that jealousy is a weak emotion!
I can't wait to hear this prick talk after Floyd makes Cotto look similiar to Gatti and Hatton! He's talkin shit bout Floyd, why he don't put Cotto in there against Paul Williams! :boxing:
How does beating a De La Hoya that had one fight in 3 years over a finished mayorga and had lost 2 of 4, plus Hatton who was aguably beat in his only fight at welterweight qualify for even top 10 fighter of the year.
How does beating a fighter who never won a belt a nobody, and a fighter who arguably lost 4 of his last fights warrant fighter of the year? You see what I did there? Man, it could go on and on but it there is no point. You go by who you beat and the magnitude of the victory.
How does beating a De La Hoya that had one fight in 3 years over a finished mayorga and had lost 2 of 4, plus Hatton who was aguably beat in his only fight at welterweight qualify for even top 10 fighter of the year.
Like I said, beating a 6 division world champion and contemporary world champion and an undefeated, young, hungry fighter, champion, and 2005 fighter of the year, back to back is a lock to make you fighter of the year, if all your competition has done is beat up Columbian brawlers, former and faded champs, and some previously unknown guy from Denmark...
How does beating a De La Hoya that had one fight in 3 years over a finished mayorga and had lost 2 of 4, plus Hatton who was aguably beat in his only fight at welterweight qualify for even top 10 fighter of the year.
Like I said, beating a 6 division world champion and contemporary world champion and an undefeated, young, hungry fighter, champion, and 2005 fighter of the yearm back to back is a lock to make you fighter of the year, if all your competition has done is beat up Columbian brawlers, former and faded champs, or some guy from Denmark?
No, but beating a 6 division champion and contemporary 154 pound world Champion/hall of fame legend who is stronger , 15 pounds heavier than you, still focused, in shape, sharp, and has his legs is more impressive than beating just some guy from Denmark, a brawler from Columbia, or a former champ who already just got beaten by you in his last fight and was coming off a year lay off.
I've never called Hatton a bum, which is a straw man and you know it. He's in his prime, strong, fast, young, determined, and consistent, and Floyd will have to and will display his entire arsenal to beat him. Victories over Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton, back to back is a lock for fighter of the year, hands down..:)
How does beating a De La Hoya that had one fight in 3 years over a finished mayorga and had lost 2 of 4, plus Hatton who was aguably beat in his only fight at welterweight qualify for even top 10 fighter of the year.
at least he fought him. mayweather has been ducking the best for years including mosley and now he will duck cotto.
You just said Floyd wanted Shane because he was old. Now Cotto fought shane, WHY DID HE FIGHT SHANE A YEAR AFTER FLOYD WANTED TOO?
mosley is old and thats why mayweather wanted to fight him but will duck cotto because he is in his prime and a bigger puncher.
Then why did Cotto want to fight him a year after Mayweather? This is no knock at Cotto just trying to get your outlook on this particular situation.
Mosley was a least an active fighter that looked good in his last few fights.
you would have a point if oscar looked bad fighting floyd, but since he didint, youre point is neutralized. oscar looked like he could beat any 154lber in the division.
Mosley was a least an active fighter that looked good in his last few fights.
Did Oscar not look good in the fight with Floyd? Did he not look good when he beat Mayorga?
So beating a semi-retired, past it, one fight in 3 year, lost 2 of his last 4 (now 3 of his last 5) promoter makes him "fighter of the year." And don't count Hatton because, in your mind, he's a bum.
No, but beating a 6 division champion and contemporary 154 pound world Champion/hall of fame legend who is stronger , 15 pounds heavier than you, still focused, in shape, sharp, and has his legs is more impressive than beating just some guy from Denmark, a brawler from Columbia, or a former champ who already just got beaten by you in his last fight and was coming off a year lay off.
I've never called Hatton a bum, which is a straw man and you know it. He's in his prime, strong, fast, young, determined, and consistent, and Floyd will have to and will display his entire arsenal to beat him. Victories over Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton, back to back is a lock for fighter of the year, hands down..:)
Lmao you telling me Mosley wasn't old. Mosley is older then DLH! Common man it is NOT only between Pavlik and Cotto. Mayweather AND Hatton both have a legit shot and Pavlik is right up there with them. Cotto isn't even in the picture.
Mosley was a least an active fighter that looked good in his last few fights.
Calz has a hell of a shot, you don't beat an undefeated champion and unify a division every day. However beating Manfredo should bring his level down, I hate Manfredo just that much.
Oscar de la hoya was an impressive win, Hatton WILL NOT BE.
Miranda and Taylor were BOTH more impressive wins then DLH. end of thread and story.
PAVLIK or COTTO, pick one, cause its between them and them only. Maybe throw Calzaghe into the mix possibly
Lmao you telling me Mosley wasn't old. Mosley is older then DLH! Common man it is NOT only between Pavlik and Cotto. Mayweather AND Hatton both have a legit shot and Pavlik is right up there with them. Cotto isn't even in the picture.
beating Mosley is better than beating Taylor. Taylor has been criticised for his last few fights, whilst Mosley is a 3 weight champion.
DLH is a six division champion and Hatton is a 2 division champion. Try AGAIN MUDASUCKA.
He only won 2 belts, not an extra 3.. He does not have the IBF belt because he chose to fight weak opposition... And all of this comes from one fight.. Fighter of the year is based on WHO YOU FIGHT.. How does fighting one person who has two belts, which of course you automatically pick up by winning, justify fighter of the year? Why does Kessler have that power, since obviously Manfredo doesn't? So beating "Kessler" makes you fighter of the year? Who?
So beating a semi-retired, past it, one fight in 3 year, lost 2 of his last 4 (now 3 of his last 5) promoter makes him "fighter of the year." And don't count Hatton because, in your mind, he's a bum.
I'm racist? lol... Who brought up race in this thread other than you, you foolish Obruni?
I'm merely of the position that these supposed "white boys" of yours haven't done a damn thing to be considered fighter of the year. Maybe it has to do more with your own racial bias and wishful thinking since the hall of fame and fighter of the year list is pretty much limited on that front, concerning your supposed "white boys".. Actually, it's obvious as you've confessed it by bringing it up and arguing in favor of your supposed kind.
Yup, you're right, no white guys in the hallf of fame.:ugh:
arum is a smart man. if mayweather is afraid to fight the best he dont deserve fighter of the year award.
he is a smart man he hyped Margarto pretty well but remeber this, when Margarito doesnt have value he will give him to next superstar he is creating