Come fight time,
Hopkins will be 43
I would expect Calzaghe to win this one.. throwing 1000+ punches would just be to much for b-hop.
Will Calzaghe get any credit if he beats a 43year old Hopkins?
I think he should as Hopkins is still one of the best fighters out there today and P4P top 10.
But I fear that after this fight, people will decommission Hopkins as an Old fighter.
Hopkins is the fight he should take next, but no matter what happens he will always get hate.
People were saying he was ducking Kessler, he faced him put on another masterclass and now people are saying who is Kessler.
Even though in the fight Kessler more than proved his worth at the highest level.
If he moves up in weight and faces Hopkins and wins, we will hear how hopkins was 43 and past it.Not to mention that he has avoided Bute/Pavlik and Taylor.
If he did stay at sm weight and fight Bute/Pavlik or Taylor he will be accused of ducking Hopkins his entire career.
Haters will always find something to throw in his direction.
This is correct, i think Joe is the smarter wiser fight now then he was then though, but that opinion, i think people took the lacy thing too seriously, so what a few people had lacy down to win (i didnt), and joe won against perciveved odds, people are now really overdoing him.
To say he is the best in the world is just rediculous, look at the level of competition this guys fights,
Take ricky hatton for example, he is going to america to fight the undisputed best fighter in the world in his prime, hardly on the same level as a fight with Mikkel Kessler is it?
The mark of a great fighter is how he fights against fellow great fighters at that time. How many great fighters has calzaghe fought?
One, eubank.
How many guys has he fought that have been p4p, NONE.
You cannot ignore that, and not ignoring that doesnt mean you not giving him credit,
Its called perspective.
True.
He hasnt fought the level of PBF or Pac.
I think he gets credit, but not what he deserves. Maybe he does now after saturday night, and people just havent seen many of his fights.
I think it comes down to exposure, and Calzaghe hasnt had much until the Lacy fight.
Also, i believe Joe isnt as good as he used to be, but never had the opposition to show how good he was. He should have fought Hopkins or Jones a long time ago.
This is correct, i think Joe is the smarter wiser fight now then he was then though, but that opinion, i think people took the lacy thing too seriously, so what a few people had lacy down to win (i didnt), and joe won against perciveved odds, people are now really overdoing him.
To say he is the best in the world is just rediculous, look at the level of competition this guys fights,
Take ricky hatton for example, he is going to america to fight the undisputed best fighter in the world in his prime, hardly on the same level as a fight with Mikkel Kessler is it?
The mark of a great fighter is how he fights against fellow great fighters at that time. How many great fighters has calzaghe fought?
One, eubank.
How many guys has he fought that have been p4p, NONE.
You cannot ignore that, and not ignoring that doesnt mean you not giving him credit,
Its called perspective.
Why do people think he doesnt get any credit, ive seen a couple idiots claim he is the best fighter in the world, its makes no sense.
He is one of the best in the world, he gets he credit for that, but i dunno how people can say he is the best in boxing when he hasnt faced many world class fighters.
I think he gets credit, but not what he deserves. Maybe he does now after saturday night, and people just havent seen many of his fights.
I think it comes down to exposure, and Calzaghe hasnt had much until the Lacy fight.
Also, i believe Joe isnt as good as he used to be, but never had the opposition to show how good he was. He should have fought Hopkins or Jones a long time ago.
Calzaghe will not get credit until he scores a dramatic comeback against a fighter everyone thinks will kill him.
Hopkins is too old and is basically a middleweight. Calzaghe will never get the credit he deserves. If only Kessler was American!
Actually i think if Hopkins puts in a decent peformance maybe some will give Joe credit. Only because Hopkins is 'a name'.
Why do people think he doesnt get any credit, ive seen a couple idiots claim he is the best fighter in the world, its makes no sense.
He is one of the best in the world, he gets he credit for that, but i dunno how people can say he is the best in boxing when he hasnt faced many world class fighters.
Calzaghe will not get credit until he scores a dramatic comeback against a fighter everyone thinks will kill him.
Hopkins is too old and is basically a middleweight. Calzaghe will never get the credit he deserves. If only Kessler was American!
Actually i think if Hopkins puts in a decent peformance maybe some will give Joe credit. Only because Hopkins is 'a name'.
No he will not get credit, cause the fight will be a an embarassement for boxing. Hopkins is old and shot, and Calzaghe has just proved that he is in peak fitness condition.
like he got mangled by a young Lacy?
ahahahaha... lacy loads up and throws one huge punch at at time, dawson is a slick boxer with great handspeed.
Well Roy Jones connected a lot as I remember, as well as Jermain Taylor. And if he beats Pavlik, people will just say he beat a guy who got lucky against Taylor. But, I can understand you not wanting him to fight Hopkins and whipping him into retirement.
calzaghe will slap taylor's ass and beat him by a bigger margin than hops did in hops - taylor 1. i just don't see hops winning this fight, joe is a real 168 / 175 lb fighter and hops is 43 years old. he's still great for his age but not the same hopkins that fucked up trinidad, antwun echols and robert allen x3
and when pavlik knocks taylor's ass the fuck out again, we'll see how "lucky" pavlik is. he's lucky enough to have taylor's number
Bernard will have an easier time imposing his will on Calzaghe than vice-versa. Joe needs to connect a lot in order to win fights. Who the last guy that connected a lot on Hopkins? Nobody ever? What Hopkins will do to an active puncher like Joe is keep the action to an absolute minimum. He's phenominal at slowing down a fight. He will have an easier time of it with his tactics, than Joe will have trying to speed it up.
Bernard by UD. Joe needs to demand too much money or something. Bernard would ruin his legacy. Fight Pavlik, Joe! You can beat him and then retire as a legend!
Well Roy Jones connected a lot as I remember, as well as Jermain Taylor. And if he beats Pavlik, people will just say he beat a guy who got lucky against Taylor. But, I can understand you not wanting him to fight Hopkins and whipping him into retirement.
Bernard will have an easier time imposing his will on Calzaghe than vice-versa. Joe needs to connect a lot in order to win fights. Who the last guy that connected a lot on Hopkins? Nobody ever? What Hopkins will do to an active puncher like Joe is keep the action to an absolute minimum. He's phenominal at slowing down a fight. He will have an easier time of it with his tactics, than Joe will have trying to speed it up.
Bernard by UD. Joe needs to demand too much money or something. Bernard would ruin his legacy. Fight Pavlik, Joe! You can beat him and then retire as a legend!
Yes, Calzaghe will get credit because Hopkins is like the Randy Couture of boxing, he is still great even at an old age. I see Calzaghe winning a UD over Hopkins 117-111 or 118-110, he will outwork Hopkins, plain and simple. Hopkins got beat twice by Taylor who Calzaghe is superior too.
Calzaghe>Kessler>Pavlik>Taylor>Hopkins = Calzaghe UD 117-111 or 118-110
Well put about the Randy Couture Part...
But I disagree with your logic.
Calzaghe Beats them All
Hopkins Beats Kessler and Pavlik
Kessler Beats Pavlik and Taylor
Pavlik Beats Taylor 5 out of 10
Taylor Beats Hopkins 5 out of 10
Yes, Calzaghe will get credit because Hopkins is like the Randy Couture of boxing, he is still great even at an old age. I see Calzaghe winning a UD over Hopkins 117-111 or 118-110, he will outwork Hopkins, plain and simple. Hopkins got beat twice by Taylor who Calzaghe is superior too.
Calzaghe>Kessler>Pavlik>Taylor>Hopkins = Calzaghe UD 117-111 or 118-110
I don't vote for any, I think he would get credit for beating hopkins, If only to put that name on his lengthy resume, but the better fight for him is elsewhere, I recommend he take that fight, only if its the last one he wants to do. I don't think the fight will be exciting enough for Joe to ride this wave of interest,
I went with the 3rd answer.......As soon as Hopkins losses again it will because he's old.If Winky would have beaten him even Winky would have gotten discredited even though he came up in weight and what not.Fighting guys in their 40s no matter how good they still are or what a legend they are will always yeild the exscuse that his best days were behind him.Calzaghe should fight him anyway to shut him up and then beat another young rising champion before retiring off into the sunset.
Come on, I want to see more Calzaghe haters vote....
go on record bitches.. go on record before they fight...
VOTE
What do you think his next step should be
of course joe wont get any credit. Boxing fans are masters at rewriting history to suit themselves. Look at Lacey- he is a monster, unbeatable and will seriously hurt joe they said. Well look what happened- old man joe made him look like a monkey for 12 rounds and then of course suddenly Lacey was a bum who couldnt fight and nobody really rated him anyway.
If the fight happens and joe wins, those who rate hopkins p4p will then say hopkins was a shot old man. For those who hate joe theres no one he can beat - there will always be an excuse.
I cant see the fight actually happening anyway- hopkins had the chance to fight joe a few years back and then suddenly decided to double his pay demands which effectively ended any chance of it happening. If he didnt want to fight then, I cant see he why he would change his mind now.
Its a known fact that B-Hop is old but fighting at a high level. Which says that if Calzaghe won a fight against B-Hop he should get a lot of credit for it. That would just be some plain ol sucka ass hating to not give Calzaghe credit if he was to beat B-Hop.
i dont know why people dont like Calzaghe's style he is very exciting IMO,he will box and he will fight and go to war if he has to like against Eubank, Brewer,Mitchell ,