These guys will outbox Pavlik

Ridiculous statment. Lorenzo?? Who did he fight that you think he is in a same league with Pavik?

hahahahhahahaha andy lee!!! LMAO... that would be straight up suicide if he fought pavlik..

Congrats Kelly, I betted against you but u pulled through but one thing is for sure.... Kelly Pavlik can be out-box and if he fight Taylor again, he is going to outbox him (althought the fight will be close agin) because well of his explosiveness. The thing about Pavlik is that he's a accumilation puncher so anyone thaT can avoid prolong damage will beat him. I had Taylor up by the time of his TKO AND the fact that Taylor wasn't give a 8-count and Kelly was is still mind-boggling (more on that later). Please keep Pavlik away from Abraham (who will outbox him), Hopkins (he would neutralized Pavlik power AND Bhop has a beard), Sturm (who would outbox him), Calgazhe (who would outbox and outwork him) and Kessler (who would MURDER HIM!!!!).....Taylor ( I see him winning the rematch). Pavlik last 4 fight, his TKO have come when his opponent are against the ropes, the guys I mention above will stay away from the ropes and Pavlik hit them and they don't go anywhere.....he is done because they will outbox him. PAvlik will only be able to beat the John Duddys of the world....and I've been saying all along that Andy Lee and Lorenzo pure boxers with speed and actual power as well will KO Pavlik. Pavlik chin is suspect (he's been tagged by Berbuch, Zuniga, and McKart) for being taken down by journeymen so Lee and Lorenzo will rape him. Pavlik has average long jab (which Taylor was slipping in the beginning)..and his right cross . Taylor is an idiot because the one thing that he should have done is hold and survive but he didn't do it. I still would have given him a standing 8-count because .. a) he's the champ, benefit of doubt b) Pavlik got one. If Pavlik get by Taylor in the rematch (which I don't think he will)...Arum will put him in with the John Duddy of the world. BHop Winky Abraham Taylor Sturm Calzaghe KESSLER Lee Lorenzo Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!! I think that's what most fighters think of him as well is that skill wise and athletically he is nothing special, but his heart and determination usually comes through. Plus he's active and very accurate with his punches. He's the champ now and lets see if anybody can knock him off.

Pavlik made a fan of me tonight....He showed heart and determination....but skill he didn't. And guess what, in the rematch..Taylor will be weary of Pavlik power and Pavlik will be just as weary of Taylor power.

:peeright: Well it not hate because the Champ needs the benefit of the doubt and these youngs kids as u call them would beat Pavlik...let me throw in Chad Dawson!!!!:sucks: :pat: :lame: SOME SMILEYS FOR YA..............

There are a few problems: BHop would outbox him and neutralize a bit the fact that Pavlik throws twice as many punches as him, but only a bit...on the scorecards Kelly will be favoured in the first 8 rounds because of his huge punch output Winky, I'm not sure about him, his last performance wasn't good and he is aging too Abraham, fights in spurts, on the scorecards this fight will go with Kelly, Abraham has a good chance at knocking Kelly out tho. Taylor, close fight again Sturm, outobxes him, but Sturms chin will give Felix problems for 12 rounds, I don't think he could back up Kelly and the referee will stop the fight in the middle rounds Calzaghe wins bigtime against Kelly KESSLER, too Haven't seen enough of Lee and Lorenzo That said I really have to say I enjoyed the fight and both fighters made me a fan. I also liked Taylor's ellbow attack against Pavlik right before the knockdown, which didn't land and he also headbutted Pavlik but that didn't hurt him, too.

Well it not hate because the Champ needs the benefit of the doubt and these youngs kids as u call them would beat Pavlik...let me throw in Chad Dawson!!!!

Congrats Kelly, I betted against you but u pulled through but one thing is for sure.... Kelly Pavlik can be out-box and if he fight Taylor again, he is going to outbox him (althought the fight will be close agin) because well of his explosiveness. The thing about Pavlik is that he's a accumilation puncher so anyone thaT can avoid prolong damage will beat him. I had Taylor up by the time of his TKO AND the fact that Taylor wasn't give a 8-count and Kelly was is still mind-boggling (more on that later). Please keep Pavlik away from Abraham (who will outbox him), Hopkins (he would neutralized Pavlik power AND Bhop has a beard), Sturm (who would outbox him), Calgazhe (who would outbox and outwork him) and Kessler (who would MURDER HIM!!!!).....Taylor ( I see him winning the rematch). Pavlik last 4 fight, his TKO have come when his opponent are against the ropes, the guys I mention above will stay away from the ropes and Pavlik hit them and they don't go anywhere.....he is done because they will outbox him. PAvlik will only be able to beat the John Duddys of the world....and I've been saying all along that Andy Lee and Lorenzo pure boxers with speed and actual power as well will KO Pavlik. Pavlik chin is suspect (he's been tagged by Berbuch, Zuniga, and McKart) for being taken down by journeymen so Lee and Lorenzo will rape him. Pavlik has average long jab (which Taylor was slipping in the beginning)..and his right cross . Taylor is an idiot because the one thing that he should have done is hold and survive but he didn't do it. I still would have given him a standing 8-count because .. a) he's the champ, benefit of doubt b) Pavlik got one. If Pavlik get by Taylor in the rematch (which I don't think he will)...Arum will put him in with the John Duddy of the world. BHop Winky Abraham Taylor Sturm Calzaghe KESSLER Lee Lorenzo Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!! Kelly Pavlik did not get a standing eight count. Pavlik got an eight count because he was knocked down and was up before the count of 10. If Taylor would've went down (like he should have) when he was hurt, he would've got the same treatment. But when you're laying against the ropes and not going down, the only way to stop the punishment is to stop the fight. There is no STANDING eight count. I'm a big Taylor fan too, but give Pavlik his due. He fought like a champ and thats what he is. Taylor would give him another good fight, and the rest you mentioned are just young kids or guys in a different division. Stop the hate.

how was it mind boggling that taylor didnt get an 8 count? he was out cold and slumped to his knees. I actually feel when Pavlik started to box more he was winning, and so did jermain and emmanuel..it also set up his right which knocked out taylor.

I have no idea who will win the rematch, it all depends on the mindframe of Taylor and if he can avoid getting smashed on the chin for 12 rounds.

You're putting prospects on there? Lee in the long run might be better than Pavlik, but not now. The other guys mostly don't fight at 160. Pavlik doesn't intend to move up soon, he can make the weight.

Congrats Kelly, I betted against you but u pulled through but one thing is for sure.... Kelly Pavlik can be out-box and if he fight Taylor again, he is going to outbox him (althought the fight will be close agin) because well of his explosiveness. The thing about Pavlik is that he's a accumilation puncher so anyone thaT can avoid prolong damage will beat him. I had Taylor up by the time of his TKO AND the fact that Taylor wasn't give a 8-count and Kelly was is still mind-boggling (more on that later). Please keep Pavlik away from Abraham (who will outbox him), Hopkins (he would neutralized Pavlik power AND Bhop has a beard), Sturm (who would outbox him), Calgazhe (who would outbox and outwork him) and Kessler (who would MURDER HIM!!!!).....Taylor ( I see him winning the rematch). Pavlik last 4 fight, his TKO have come when his opponent are against the ropes, the guys I mention above will stay away from the ropes and Pavlik hit them and they don't go anywhere.....he is done because they will outbox him. PAvlik will only be able to beat the John Duddys of the world....and I've been saying all along that Andy Lee and Lorenzo pure boxers with speed and actual power as well will KO Pavlik. Pavlik chin is suspect (he's been tagged by Berbuch, Zuniga, and McKart) for being taken down by journeymen so Lee and Lorenzo will rape him. Pavlik has average long jab (which Taylor was slipping in the beginning)..and his right cross . Taylor is an idiot because the one thing that he should have done is hold and survive but he didn't do it. I still would have given him a standing 8-count because .. a) he's the champ, benefit of doubt b) Pavlik got one. If Pavlik get by Taylor in the rematch (which I don't think he will)...Arum will put him in with the John Duddy of the world. BHop Winky Abraham Taylor Sturm Calzaghe KESSLER Lee Lorenzo Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!! LOL, I almost spit out my coffee when I read that one, thanks for the laugh.

Congrats Kelly, I betted against you but u pulled through but one thing is for sure.... Kelly Pavlik can be out-box and if he fight Taylor again, he is going to outbox him (althought the fight will be close agin) because well of his explosiveness. The thing about Pavlik is that he's a accumilation puncher so anyone thaT can avoid prolong damage will beat him. I had Taylor up by the time of his TKO AND the fact that Taylor wasn't give a 8-count and Kelly was is still mind-boggling (more on that later). Please keep Pavlik away from Abraham (who will outbox him), Hopkins (he would neutralized Pavlik power AND Bhop has a beard), Sturm (who would outbox him), Calgazhe (who would outbox and outwork him) and Kessler (who would MURDER HIM!!!!).....Taylor ( I see him winning the rematch). Pavlik last 4 fight, his TKO have come when his opponent are against the ropes, the guys I mention above will stay away from the ropes and Pavlik hit them and they don't go anywhere.....he is done because they will outbox him. PAvlik will only be able to beat the John Duddys of the world....and I've been saying all along that Andy Lee and Lorenzo pure boxers with speed and actual power as well will KO Pavlik. Pavlik chin is suspect (he's been tagged by Berbuch, Zuniga, and McKart) for being taken down by journeymen so Lee and Lorenzo will rape him. Pavlik has average long jab (which Taylor was slipping in the beginning)..and his right cross . Taylor is an idiot because the one thing that he should have done is hold and survive but he didn't do it. I still would have given him a standing 8-count because .. a) he's the champ, benefit of doubt b) Pavlik got one. If Pavlik get by Taylor in the rematch (which I don't think he will)...Arum will put him in with the John Duddy of the world. BHop Winky Abraham Taylor Sturm Calzaghe KESSLER Lee Lorenzo Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!! YOU ARE NOTHIN BUT A HATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!