well the bigger question is could Mayweather reach the MW limits ? at Oscar fight he weight in as 150 and went into the fight as 147 so he is a barely WW
Only if the middleweight champ was not a natural middleweight or he sucked. I don't think Floyd wants to go to 160. He's never brought it up. I think 154 is too high. 140-147 is where he belongs.
And regardless of what anyone thinks Floyd has earned his greatness anything else he does will strengthen it. 5 titles in 5 different weightclasses. Undefeated.
Dont be confused by My location.. I am No Ricky Hatton fan...
Look I am Not disputing That Floyd is a Good Boxer.. Wlad Klitschko is My favorite Fighter and I dont consider him the CHAMP.. just another belt holder.. I guess we have very different standards as to what the CHAMP is.. and Thats OK.. I just want Floyd to EARN his greatness.. NOT just Hand pick a few guys who have ZERO Chance against him.. and Declare his greatness..
I guess that isn't even so bad.. AS long as people dont get Fooled by it.. BUT so many DO..
well Welter after couple of year from his retirment all the people Floyd faced going to be great oppenet that what happen to old school guys.
i think old school boxers really overrated because after a few year people forgot that the guy used to take steriod play dirty or ducked a person. what is knowen is the record which many people hold it value to them
OK, do me this one favor. Tell me just "one" guy at WW who has done so much to prove that he would kill Baldy? None of them have done jack shit but everyone sweats them. Margarito has the worst resume in the history of sports but yet he is so feared? Its a joke. Williams hasnt done shit but beat Margarito, Cintron got decapitated by Margartio. None of those guys have accomplished anything for you to say that he was a paper champ and I think he gives all of them hell. You sound like a typical guy who's only looking for the flash. Baldy is a highly skilled fighter with the best chin going. I bet he wrecks Hatton any day and Ricky knew that too, thats why he wouldnt fight him
Dont be confused by My location.. I am No Ricky Hatton fan...
Look I am Not disputing That Floyd is a Good Boxer.. Wlad Klitschko is My favorite Fighter and I dont consider him the CHAMP.. just another belt holder.. I guess we have very different standards as to what the CHAMP is.. and Thats OK.. I just want Floyd to EARN his greatness.. NOT just Hand pick a few guys who have ZERO Chance against him.. and Declare his greatness..
I guess that isn't even so bad.. AS long as people dont get Fooled by it.. BUT so many DO..
Any of the Other belt holders at Would cream poor Baldy.. he is a light punching fucking STIFF who got lucky one Night and ran into a mental case.. His claim as the MAN at Welter was Completely disputed and His talents exposed by a half assed effort from Floyd Mayweather
OK, do me this one favor. Tell me just "one" guy at WW who has done so much to prove that he would kill Baldy? None of them have done jack shit but everyone sweats them. Margarito has the worst resume in the history of sports but yet he is so feared? Its a joke. Williams hasnt done shit but beat Margarito, Cintron got decapitated by Margartio. None of those guys have accomplished anything for you to say that he was a paper champ and I think he gives all of them hell. You sound like a typical guy who's only looking for the flash. Baldy is a highly skilled fighter with the best chin going. I bet he wrecks Hatton any day and Ricky knew that too, thats why he wouldnt fight him
r u talkin bout the same cory spinks that got KOd by judah, who mayweather punished?? to say floyd doesnt beat cory spinks is ridiculous. what is cory better at than floyd??
Cory is better than Floyd at getting put to sleep by Zab Judah.
Floyd does not beat Cory Spinks at 154, let alone 160.
I promise you, I sincerely hopes this fight comes off and bodog underestimates Cory. I really do.
r u talkin bout the same cory spinks that got KOd by judah, who mayweather punished?? to say floyd doesnt beat cory spinks is ridiculous. what is cory better at than floyd??
What are you talking about? Zab lost to Baldy, therefore he was the Champ and Floyd beat him. You can have your lame arguments for the other 2 but definatly not for this one
Any of the Other belt holders at Would cream poor Baldy.. he is a light punching fucking STIFF who got lucky one Night and ran into a mental case.. His claim as the MAN at Welter was Completely disputed and His talents exposed by a half assed effort from Floyd Mayweather
Its funny how Floyd haters have to bring down other fighters accomplishments just to try and bring Floyd's accomplishments down. Saying that Baldomir wasn't the champ at 147 is absurd. He beat the man who beat the man who beat the man, etc.... Baldy earned the right to be the lineal champ by beating the guy who was before him. Then Floyd earned that right. Why bring everyone else down instead of giving him his due?
I am sorry.. My words HURT you so much.. The fact is .. he was never The "CHAMP" since 135... Only a Belt holder... you can argue your opinion or quote hersey.. But you prove nothing..
Everything you said is an unsubstainted Rumour.. That cant be proven..
What can be proven is.. Zab Judah lost his fight previously before fighting Floyd.. Therefore His Undisputed status vanished.. DId ANYONE dispute Baldy being the MAN at Welter???? Only Floyd fan's didn't...
ALL this talk about Guys turning down guys dont prove SHIT...
What are you talking about? Zab lost to Baldy, therefore he was the Champ and Floyd beat him. You can have your lame arguments for the other 2 but definatly not for this one
I could see this happening sometime in the future...obviously it would have to be a few years down the road when Floyd puts some weight on, against a handpicked opponent that poses little threat to PBF.
He could be a six division titlist, not a six division champion. Castillejo was just a titlist recently, and Floyd would box circles around him.
Exactly.....
This is complete garbage. How the fuck is he a paper champ at WW when he beat both Zab & Baldy who were the last 2 guys to have the belt? We all know that at 154 Oscar wasnt the Champ but he was still considered the best fighter at that weight and the real Champ Spinks had just lost to Taylor and not long ago lost to Zab. Also, we all know that Floyd tried to fight Spinks about 3 times but then he gets ripped by the media & fans so much for wanting that fight that he then doesnt take it. At 140 I say he is the real champ for the simple fact that he beat Gatti, Hatton beat Tszyu, and Floyd challanged Hatton a hundered times but was always turned down. What else do you want him to do? If he fights him at 147 then what can you say? That it wasnt at 140? Big deal, Hatton is bigger and if he fights him then he will get his ass whooped
I am sorry.. My words HURT you so much.. The fact is .. he was never The "CHAMP" since 135... Only a Belt holder... you can argue your opinion or quote hersey.. But you prove nothing..
Everything you said is an unsubstainted Rumour.. That cant be proven..
What can be proven is.. Zab Judah lost his fight previously before fighting Floyd.. Therefore His Undisputed status vanished.. DId ANYONE dispute Baldy being the MAN at Welter???? Only Floyd fan's didn't...
ALL this talk about Guys turning down guys dont prove SHIT...
I dont Know... You gotta ask yourself.. Is winning a Belt the same as Being The Champ.... He was never considered the 140 champ.. Or the 154 champ.. and his WW champion status is only On paper..
I think he could beat all 3 of those guys.. I think he could also lose to all 3 of those guys..
But I am not sure he is More than a 2 Division Champ at this Time..
This is complete garbage. How the fuck is he a paper champ at WW when he beat both Zab & Baldy who were the last 2 guys to have the belt? We all know that at 154 Oscar wasnt the Champ but he was still considered the best fighter at that weight and the real Champ Spinks had just lost to Taylor and not long ago lost to Zab. Also, we all know that Floyd tried to fight Spinks about 3 times but then he gets ripped by the media & fans so much for wanting that fight that he then doesnt take it. At 140 I say he is the real champ for the simple fact that he beat Gatti, Hatton beat Tszyu, and Floyd challanged Hatton a hundered times but was always turned down. What else do you want him to do? If he fights him at 147 then what can you say? That it wasnt at 140? Big deal, Hatton is bigger and if he fights him then he will get his ass whooped
I dont Know... You gotta ask yourself.. Is winning a Belt the same as Being The Champ.... He was never considered the 140 champ.. Or the 154 champ.. and his WW champion status is only On paper..
I think he could beat all 3 of those guys.. I think he could also lose to all 3 of those guys..
But I am not sure he is More than a 2 Division Champ at this Time..