GL: The Top Rank-Golden Boy rivalry has been well documented. Bob Arum recently told me that he'd be willing to sit down and discuss Mosley-Cotto and Pacquiao-Marquez II. Is that something you and Richard would be willing to do?
DLH: "Absolutely. We're obviously willing to give the fight fans what they want to see. If you talk about a Mosley-Cotto fight, I think it's a little too premature at this point. First of all, I would like to see what the numbers were on the PPV with Zab Judah versus Cotto. Then one obstacle we're going to have is with the split. Shane Mosley is the champion, Shane Mosley is the better fighter and he's the guy that everyone wants to fight if they want to fight the best at 147. There's a lot of obstacles we have to face, but can it be done for the fans? Absolutely."
Are you kidding me? "Mosley is the champ??!?!?!?!" He's an INTERIM CHAMPION for the WBC. Cotto holds the WBA and will probably fight for the WBO in his next fight, so Cotto will be the unified champ if they were to try to fight after the Margo/Williams winner. I swear, DLH is delusional sometimes. I'd love to see a Mosley - Cotto fight but not if Mosley is calling for anything above 55%. While Cotto would be the unified champ, I think Mosley's name still has value and he should get an extra 5%, but that's it! 55-45 for Mosley and I think the fight can be done.
BUT, knowing DLH, he's going to want 65-35 Mosley, and that would be a lack of respect for Cotto (although he'd be doing it to piss Arum off).
GL: The Top Rank-Golden Boy rivalry has been well documented. Bob Arum recently told me that he'd be willing to sit down and discuss Mosley-Cotto and Pacquiao-Marquez II. Is that something you and Richard would be willing to do?
DLH: "Absolutely. We're obviously willing to give the fight fans what they want to see. If you talk about a Mosley-Cotto fight, I think it's a little too premature at this point. First of all, I would like to see what the numbers were on the PPV with Zab Judah versus Cotto. Then one obstacle we're going to have is with the split. Shane Mosley is the champion, Shane Mosley is the better fighter and he's the guy that everyone wants to fight if they want to fight the best at 147. There's a lot of obstacles we have to face, but can it be done for the fans? Absolutely."
Are you kidding me? "Mosley is the champ??!?!?!?!" He's an INTERIM CHAMPION for the WBC. Cotto holds the WBA and will probably fight for the WBO in his next fight, so Cotto will be the unified champ if they were to try to fight after the Margo/Williams winner. I swear, DLH is delusional sometimes. I'd love to see a Mosley - Cotto fight but not if Mosley is calling for anything above 55%. While Cotto would be the unified champ, I think Mosley's name still has value and he should get an extra 5%, but that's it! 55-45 for Mosley and I think the fight can be done.
BUT, knowing DLH, he's going to want 65-35 Mosley, and that would be a lack of respect for Cotto (although he'd be doing it to piss Arum off).
Absolutely agree 100% with everything u said here man.nice to see someone knows what they're talking about for a change..thanks for the comment.
Look guys, I hate Oscar just as much as you but take off your Cotto blinders for a second. Mosley is the higher rated fighter and has done way more then Cotto. Cotto hasnt done anything at 147 except for beat a Zab who hasnt won in 2 years, Urkal, and a Quintana who only got hype for beating a overrated Julio. Meanwhile Shane has 5 great wins in a row including his last 3 of beating Vargas, Knocking Vargas out, and then beating a Callazo who a ton of people had beating Hatton.
Mosley is the highest rated fighter in the division and he has the overall bigger name. You cant deny that the Zab fight was a local fight and thats why it was so big. They still may not have done great PPV numbers. Mosley has fought Winky twice, Oscar twice, Vargas twice, a prime Forrest twice, and Callazo. Those are huge names and he deserves more money. Maybe not alot but more. They'll probally try to fight next year at the PR parade but Shane might be done by thenI have to agree here that Mosley is the more accomplished fighter and more of a draw than Cotto. 60/40 would be fair because I think this is another bigger than life opportunity for Cotto to assume another step up on the boxing ladder of fame.
You guys are talking like hard core boxing fans. The fact is if you walk down a normal street with just black & white people then it wont even be close between the amount of people who know Shane vs the amount of people who know Cotto. The Cotto fight was a local fight. It was in NY on the PR parade vs a popular kid from BK. If you deny that then your foolish. Let him go fight somewhere else and lets see how many tickets he sells. I also would be very interested in seeing what the PPV sales are.
Someone also said that Mosley wasnt rated higher and most dont have him in the top 10 where they now do have Cotto. What P4P list where you looking at? Even on here, Mosley is on nearly everyone's P4P list while Cotto isnt. The fact is that Cotto is good but he still hasnt faced 1 "it" fighter yet. The closest guy was Zab but we all know he is a 4 round fighter who loses focus, hasnt won in 2 years, and was basically just suspended for a year. Im not taking nothing away from him but you guys are still slightly overhyping this kid. I think anyone of the top WW's give him hell and I would pick nearly every guy over him. I would definatly pick Floyd, Shane, Margarito, and Clottey over him. I also think Baldy, Cintron, and Williams could possibly give him a ton of trouble. He hasnt faced 1 guy on that level yet
it has you scratchin your balls? did cotto low blow you as well?
you know, coincidentally, the little fuqqer did low blow me - but fortunately enough for me - i have brass balls so when i say i'm scratchin' 'um - i really mean i'm feelin' myself up. nawmeen?
The question was for the pro Shane fans that seemed to come out of nowhere. Im just wandering what would Miguelito have to do to earn their respect and consider him a big draw in boxing
yeah, the fukken anti-cotto sentiment has me scratchin' my balls too ... weird.
If mosely wants the fight to happen, and cotto wants the fight to happen, then the fight WILL HAPPEN, regardless of how much DLH and Arum don't like each other.
Should Cotto beat the winner of margarito vs williams, I'd say cotto vs mosely is in the bag.
dog, thats not even disputable. shane is NOT a bigger draw than cotto.
si tu te tiras al medio, no tengo miedo, no hay retroseso - lo que hay es FUEGO FUEGO!
this potential fight would be abuse, cotto should JUST be thinking about ONE mexican in the WW division.
a mosley / cotto fight would be hard for me to watch. he bitches delahoya too, oh yeah, believe that shit ladies! you'll see JCC ringside with a cotto tee on and chugging his N'th beer while cotto stands over odlh's prostate body.
The question was for the pro Shane fans that seemed to come out of nowhere. Im just wandering what would Miguelito have to do to earn their respect and consider him a big draw in boxing
If theres one fight that makes sense in boxing its Mayweather/Mosley. The winner of Cotto/Margarito should fight the winner of that fight. Its that simple.
I completely agree. I hope that it the way things turn out.
Also, remember that the Mosley-Vargas PPVs were what they were because of the Mexican audience. Black people aren't interested in Mosley while Mexicans are interested in Vargas/Margarito. Same with PR fans and Cotto. That's why Cotto brings in more $$$ on PPVs than Mosley.
I would love to see Cotto vs Mosley but the GBP-TopRank relationship makes it less likely than it would be otherwise.
As far as who brings more money. Well just think of potential common opponents.
What fight would generate more money Cotto-Margarito or Mosley-Margarito? Cotto has a built in fan base (PR). On top of that his drama filled fights are bringing in new fans every fight. After this weeks free replay of Cotto-Judah I expect Cotto would have increased his fan base considerably.
If theres one fight that makes sense in boxing its Mayweather/Mosley. The winner of Cotto/Margarito should fight the winner of that fight. Its that simple.
I'm assuming it's based on that word, but it's a title given by the girls in my "inner circle" to whichever guy they think deserves it.
I would say what it means, but the girl I'm talking to tends to Google my username to see where I've been, and every new girl I meet tends to do the same, so my lips are sealed.
baya is short for bayamon im assuming?
Dude, every time I see your name it reminds me of Saso from Carlito's Way, LOL.
Mosley- Vargas sold more PPV's then Cotto- Judah. Mosley is the bigger name fighter with more big fights. Cotto should just give him a 60-40 split and then they can get it on.
Have you seen the Cotto-Judah numbers, because they haven't been released yet. So, that tells me that you're talking out of your ass and everything you say is bullshit and should be taken as a lie.
Look guys, I hate Oscar just as much as you but take off your Cotto blinders for a second. Mosley is the higher rated fighter and has done way more then Cotto. Cotto hasnt done anything at 147 except for beat a Zab who hasnt won in 2 years, Urkal, and a Quintana who only got hype for beating a overrated Julio. Meanwhile Shane has 5 great wins in a row including his last 3 of beating Vargas, Knocking Vargas out, and then beating a Callazo who a ton of people had beating Hatton.
Mosley is the highest rated fighter in the division and he has the overall bigger name. You cant deny that the Zab fight was a local fight and thats why it was so big. They still may not have done great PPV numbers. Mosley has fought Winky twice, Oscar twice, Vargas twice, a prime Forrest twice, and Callazo. Those are huge names and he deserves more money. Maybe not alot but more. They'll probally try to fight next year at the PR parade but Shane might be done by then
Higher rated by whom? Mosley isn't even in most people's top 10 P4P while Cotto is.
Also, Ring Magazine has Cotto at #2 WW, with PBF being #1. Mosley is #4, right behind Antonio Margarito. So, again, who has Mosley rated higher than Cotto?
BTW, Mosley beat an injured Collazo who did NOTHING after the 3rd round but try to get 12 rounds in.
You're right, Mosley has fought better fighters, but that doesn't mean he's done anything lately.
GL: The Top Rank-Golden Boy rivalry has been well documented. Bob Arum recently told me that he'd be willing to sit down and discuss Mosley-Cotto and Pacquiao-Marquez II. Is that something you and Richard would be willing to do?
DLH: "Absolutely. We're obviously willing to give the fight fans what they want to see. If you talk about a Mosley-Cotto fight, I think it's a little too premature at this point. First of all, I would like to see what the numbers were on the PPV with Zab Judah versus Cotto. Then one obstacle we're going to have is with the split. Shane Mosley is the champion, Shane Mosley is the better fighter and he's the guy that everyone wants to fight if they want to fight the best at 147. There's a lot of obstacles we have to face, but can it be done for the fans? Absolutely."
If u ask me,Cotto is the star of the Welterweight division now,ESPECIALLY with his fan base,if Cotto wants,he can call the shots just for them alone,its not like DLH to speek like that,as of right now,Cotto's name has more $$$ then Mosley
If I was Arum I would say, We will match whatever shane made fighting Collazo. Any revenew above that is Cotto's. If Shane fought Collazo with no problem, then he should get paid the same, because Cotto is not the real "Champion" so there will be no money to be made right? So Arum should guarantee this amount of money and then whatever else is made should go to Cotto. I think GBP should think about this.
Question for you guys. If Cotto fights and beats Marg or Cintron, would u consider Shane to still be a more attractive attraction than Cotto?
dog, thats not even disputable. shane is NOT a bigger draw than cotto.
si tu te tiras al medio, no tengo miedo, no hay retroseso - lo que hay es FUEGO FUEGO!
this potential fight would be abuse, cotto should JUST be thinking about ONE mexican in the WW division.
a mosley / cotto fight would be hard for me to watch. he bitches delahoya too, oh yeah, believe that shit ladies! you'll see JCC ringside with a cotto tee on and chugging his N'th beer while cotto stands over odlh's prostate body.
Since when does Mosley has a following of fans, he has some fans but nothing like Cotto who has a whole country and is dragging non Puerto rican boxing fans into his bandwagon because of his exciting style.
Mosley should earn just a little bit more something like 55-45 but GBP shouldn't be making ridiculous financial demands. Lets forget about Margarito and do this fight now, this is the fight I want to see the most aside from the Mayweather fight for Cotto.