Who needs to retire more? Toney or Holyfield

Toney. He is physically and mentally DONE.. Atleast Holyfield seems motivated right now.

both of them

I say go ahead with both, neither of them are taking bad punishment yet. I wouldnt really like them to take steps back up to the top levels though, especially not against dangerous fighters. And at least Holyfield comes in very good shape, regardless of his age... ________ Vapormatic

toney is not a heavyweight

Holyfeild......If Toney would take training seriously he could still be good.

I think both should retire as they both still have their health and if they contiue they may get hurt. Also they are extremly wealthy and they should enjoy their money and relax as they've both earned it.

Holyfield, he's winning but he's not fighting no Sammuel Peter. I know Toney just took a step back in the level of competition but he needed that after his two losses (one I thought he won) to Peter. Back when Toney stopped Holyfield I said damn he needs to quit.

At this point is there anyone who believes that either of them could win the title?

John Ruiz. Both should, nothing left to prove.

To answer the question, they both should retire. They both can continue to beat bums if they want, but if they actually get a shot they will get brutally knocked out. Toney still looked pretty sharp defensively to me. Offensively he looks slow and old. His counters missed, and his reaction time just isnt there anymore. And he beat the soon to be WBC Champ in Samuel Peter in the first fight regardless of what the judges saw. Most of press row had Toney winning.

Toney just took a controversial split decision over a "bum" Holyfields been knocking out "bums" And its not like Toney put up much of a fight in that second PETER fight... It was a clear win for Toney. I downloaded the fight last night and watched it. Honestly if Toney was taking all the HGH that Holyfield is taking it would be a different story.

Toney, at least Holyfield is winning

toney! He just looks bad now in ring!

true...but could you honestly see holyfield going 12 rounds with sam peter at this point in his career?

toney lost to one of the best heavyweights at the moment holyfield beat bums Toney just took a controversial split decision over a "bum" Holyfields been knocking out "bums" And its not like Toney put up much of a fight in that second PETER fight...

toney lost to one of the best heavyweights at the moment holyfield beat bums

holyfield definately Holyfield is winning, Toney isnt

Holyfield, but Im intrigued by his so-called "comeback" so I voted for Toney.

holyfield definately