How Do You Stop Floyd's Defense? (if possible)

I would FUCK his arms up. Hooks and straights to his biceps and shoulders. It should wear anyone down. If I bench 315 pounds and weigh 150 my punches would hurt.

That's how you do it! My man Cotto bangs anything...the arms, shoulders, wrist, elbows....something always breaks!

Floyd doesnt move as much as people make him out to. He never even runs any more. Nearly everything he does with his body is at a slow pace nowdays. He'll just step to the side but he never moves all out like a Spinks. People try to say he gets on his bike but he doesnt. You can hit him all day if you want. The problem is that your mostly just going to be hitting his arms or he will slip or roll the punch. Still, you dont have to chase him down like alot of people say. He's right there for you. He'll just give you suttle movement

Your logic just made no sense... no your logic make no sense 1.I divide the world of fighters in two those weighing at least 20 pounds more than mayweather and the smaller ones. 2. then I give my opinion on what fighters in both categories should do your answer (already indicating that you did not really read my post, since I was stating "IF you weigh at least 30 pounds more, THEN do this") is that if you weigh 20 pounds more than mayweather it goes to your detriment. by YOUR logic a middlewight would not be able to beat mayweather, because if you outweigh him by 20 pounds you are going to be too slow. (that's what comes out of your reply, not of my post)

I think that might be the case. If he doesn't retire the only way he could get beat is if he ages or moves to high up in weight. The only possible way it seems would be able to match him speed and with that outwork him. IMO there really isn't anybody that can with maybe the acception of Mosely, but even Mosely at his age now may not be fast enough. Bullshit! Numero Uno he can be beat just like any other fighter if he gets caught with a big punch. Dont say it cant happen cause Demarcus fuckin Corley staggered Floyd. 2. There are 3 good candidates who may have what it takes and (this is excluding some other very talented natural Jr Middles cause I doubt Floyd would take the risk) they are: Winky Wright-this is the fight I wanna see Shane Mosley- He looked great against Collazo who is tough guy to look good against Miguel Cotto- If he looks good against Judah his body work and ability to cut off the ring could be big trouble an its exception not acception, acception is the act of accepting

Great offense beats great defense. You don't have to chase Mayweather around the ring to beat him. Even if you guys don't agree with my below strategy, if nothing else I hope we can all agree on this, the fighters Mayweather faces will always lose if they go into fights with him and think they can only bike with him to get it done. My approach to cracking that shell... Floyd has to come out of that D for offense. I still think a combination of bait and jab range stalking would work best against Floyd if you can't match the pace needed to apply pressure, but are quick enough to be comparable in foot and handspeed to him. I would want him to move in and out. When he comes in - throw, and if he dodges and retreats don't commit to running after him. If he stays, and you can handle, trade, otherwise keep that jab range between you at all times. - Stay close, but not too close - You look open to hit, but actually anticipate incoming - You look stiff, but when he comes in you are ready to counter - You stay busy with the jab - but intend to counter his counter of your jab. If he doesn't counter, good. If he does, you're prepped for it. - If he adjusts to your planned counters, mix in feinting your counters to counter his adjustments.

Lol. Oscar got so frustrated at one point he just started punching Mayweather in the arm. When he did that I was thinking to myself, "Wtf!?" That's some shit you do in middle school.

Oscar was probably almost 20 pounds more during the fight, didn't help much against a runner. Probably actually slowed down oscar. if you think so, go on to number 2. anyway... Oscar was somewhere between 160-165, he was in great shape (one week before the fight he weighed in below 161, which he was required) IMO Oscar was not 20 pounds heavier. btw your logic is completely fucked up: by what YOU say, a middleweight could not beat floyd. so a young jones, toney or hopkins would not beat floyd? you are crazy

2 possibilities. 1. if you outweigh him by 20 pounds: bodywork, see how floyd had to cover up the head when dlh flurried on the ropes? that's because he had to protect his head more than against anyone else. to do this you need to cut off the ring while jabbing and be fast enough for him to be worried of not be able to block all your punches. (margarito is clearly not the man) you also need to be bigger than oscar and with beeter stamina, bcos floyd is so trained that bodyshots have usually little effect. 2. if you are around his size, you better be an all time great or hope he is injured. finally. "oscar didnt finish the job" "zab almost had him than he faded" that's all bullshit. there is a reason why fighters stop throwing when they fight pbf, it is simple and in front of everyone: they get hit in the face, nobody likes that. Saying "take some" is easy taking them is a whole different story.

Hit him in the dick really hard in the first round, so they don't stop the fight. That'll slow him down. Great minds think alike?

Punch him in the groin?

Definitely lots of body shots (aka Cotto) and good fients. You need to fake Floyd out then hit where you think his face will be when you throw a punch. You can't just throw a jab at his face, he dodges those. Fake a right and throw a hard jab to the left and you will get him. Focusing on the body then trying for a great punch up top is great. I think you should probably watch Mayweather-Castillo to get a good opinion, not Mayweather-DLH. Castillo would throw a wide right hook because Mayweather would shift left to get off the ropes, it worked well. Winning on points using pressure and body shots should do the trick.

What are you guys smoking? What fight were you watching? You guys keep talking about "just do what Oscar did"? Dude landed only 20% of his punches. That wasnt a great style for Oscar at all. Then one guy said he's off balance when he turns side ways? Have you ever seen him? He's not off balance. He may look like it but he's not. Another guy said to get him on the ropes and unload punches like Hatton would do? No way that works. Even Hatton said so. Thats what Floyd wants you to do because he will pick most of them off and it will tire you out. Even Hatton said he wouldnt do alot of those things that he normally does against Floyd because thats what Floyd wants. The way to penetrate Floyd's D is to throw straight shots. Hardly no one does it anymore. A jab also helps. Williams has a good chance but not because of his output. He has the best chance because he is a lefty and its hard for Floyd and everyone else to stop a lefty from hitting you. Thats why Zab and Chop are the only guys to really buzz him. Overall though, its just a hard D to penetrate and its basically impossible because he has mastered it. You should forget about penetrating it and just land punches even if he's blocking all of them. That still counts for something if you dont let Floyd hit you back much. You just have to be patient to not keep loading up because you will wear out

I'm curious, if you were a boxer and approach Floyd who's already in that shoulder roll pose what would you do? you have to remeber oscars doesnt really have a good right hand and when hes not throwing the jab hes not as effective as a fighter...if oscars right hand was a finish product he would fight in a side stance like toney.. but hes not confident in it, if he keeps shadowboxing viciously he migh pick it up

For fuck's sake this guy is not a fucking god. He hand picks his opponents and is definitely not a warrior. Sure he's got hands and GOOD defense but he's just a Run of the speedy but no power fighter. If you just use a strong, stiff jab he won't do shit(unless that shoulder shit counts for anything), then back him up on the ropes and go to town in other words do what Glenn Johnson did to Roy. I mean come on, Floyd didn't look that good at all against oscar and Oscar isn't considered an upper echelon fighter anymore he's more of a legend now.

For fuck's sake this guy is not a fucking god. He hand picks his opponents and is definitely not a warrior. Sure he's got hands and GOOD defense but he's just a Run of the speedy but no power fighter. If you just use a strong, stiff jab he won't do shit, then back him up on the ropes or do what Glenn Johnson did to Roy.

You got to jab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cut off the ring, stick the jab, hook off the jab. Pick your shots with the right hand because Floyd can counter that really well. oscar had or still has the best chance but that f*cking idiot did not use his jab other wise he would of won it clearly williams/margarito both are kinda dumb when it comes to ring smarts and sticking to the gameplan

Cut off the ring, stick the jab, hook off the jab. Pick your shots with the right hand because Floyd can counter that really well.

and who do you suppose is going to be able to do that? He didn't ask to pick a boxer he asked how to get by his fucking defense. I didn't say it would be easy. Fighters that come to mind with that type of style are Hatton and Cotto but I still see them getting outboxed. Oscar came with the right approach, just couldn't do it the whole way through the fight.