Do you guys think that Mayweather is already a legend? What about if he beats Oscar? I think Mayweather is going to be a name people think about when they talk about this era of boxers but I think Mayweather has to fight Mosley to be a true legend in the eyes of true boxing fans. I think he will beat Oscar, but I think he has to beat the man that beat Oscar. I mean Mayweather is a great fighter but he hasn’t fought the type of fighters Oscar or Mosley have. What do you guys think?
He only had one loss at heavy and it was his debut. He also beat Tarver for the Lightheavyweight Title, u must of forgot!
Oh my daze, he beat Tarver who was finshed from piling on pounds for rocky and then having to lose it quickly to fight b-hop.
Who is Hopkins fighting now?
Oh yeah
a 154 pound winky is gonna have to go up to 170 to fight hopkins, lol.
Im not saying hopkins aint a class fighter, or a legend in his own right,
but let me break it to you like this
If de la hoya aint a legend,
No way on this earth is Hopkins one.
lol.
Not a legend because he hasn't fought anyone that could push him... not corrales... not menfredy... not any title fight he's had... not gatti... Zab only had him for 4-5 rounds (And I like ZAB alot) .....Oscar will be defeated... but it wont make mayweather a legend just yet.. he needs to get in trouble a few times and be forced to show heart that he has.
Oscar definately won't be a legend... every big name he's beaten was beaten by Trinidad first... no disputing that...
trinidad is more legend that oscar that tells me.
Oscar needs this fight... and so does Floyd.. both need it to even have a chance of being legends like hopkins.
Nope, Oscar de La Hoya will never be a legend,
here's why
He is a 6 weight world champion. from 130-160lbs.
He is the biggest star in boxing since Ali.
He won Olympic Gold.
He has fought nearly every great fighter of his generation.
Yep, suddenly it all makes sense, lol.
BUT HOPKINS, HE IS A LEGEND
he fought
Robert Allen x3
William Joppyx2
Howard Eastman
A blown up tito trinidad
a blown up De La hoya, who began his carrer @130.
another great thing about Hopkins is the fact he spent his carrer picking on smaller fighters than him,
he is a legend for being a 180+ pound man who boiled down to 160 because he had some losses at Lightheavy and didnt wanna fight there for a while.
Also the fact he dodged RJJ like the plague after he got schooled the first time.
The one time Hopkins fought a real middleweight, He lost twice.
Yup De La Hoya will never be a legend, but Hopkins, he is already one.
lol!
Not a legend because he hasn't fought anyone that could push him... not corrales... not menfredy... not any title fight he's had... not gatti... Zab only had him for 4-5 rounds (And I like ZAB alot) .....Oscar will be defeated... but it wont make mayweather a legend just yet.. he needs to get in trouble a few times and be forced to show heart that he has.
Oscar definately won't be a legend... every big name he's beaten was beaten by Trinidad first... no disputing that...
trinidad is more legend that oscar that tells me.
Oscar needs this fight... and so does Floyd.. both need it to even have a chance of being legends like hopkins.
I think Mayweather might have to spar with godzilla, and take a roundhouse from Chuck Norris himself to give ANY type of credit to some who post here. Really, it doesn't matter to me.
I think that a lot of hate will be wiped away if he fights and beats DLH, Hatton and Mosley. But in order for him to do that Hatton and Mosley need to stop finding reasons not to fight him. Nobody can say that Floyd hasn't tried to fight these 3 guys for a while now. Its funny that ever since he started talking about retirement Hatton and Mosley all of the sudden want to fight him.
I know Hatton said he wasnt ready for PBF for whatever reason. But he has made it clear he wants him somewhere down the line. PBF did offer Hatton a fight and it didnt come off. Things never come easy in this life though, especially in the politics of boxing, we all know that.
There arent many fights i really want to see right now, but Hatton and Mosely againsst PBF are a few of them right at the top of my list.
As for Hatton and Mosely all of sudden wanting to fight PBF is maybe because that shows they really want him, and dont want him to retire. Probably a shock to Hatton that he may not get the chance to box him.
. I'll talk about how he avoided the ELITE competition in the divisions he won his belts
Yea, like how he fought the Elite Castillo in his first fight at 135 and won
Or when people said he was avioding Diego Corrales (at 130 i believe) cos Corrales was alot bigger and undefeated,
And then he repeatedly hit Corrales in the temple for 6 rounds till Corrales' corner couldnt bear to see anymore punishment
His first fight at 154 he could have fought Cory Spinks and taken his belt,
NOPE, he fights the ELITE de la hoya in his 1st fight at 154 instead. lol
admit it, you dont like floyd cos you think Pacman is p4p number 1?
lol
In todays times? Probably not. Gatti will probably have more of a "legend" status then PBF. It doesn't matter to me. Appreciate PBF for what he is. Excellence. I'm telling you right now, DLH is going to feel the pain on Cinco de Moe. As far as the rest go, Margrita, Hatton, ...snuffed. Moesly I could see being a great fight.
Exactly. A guy like Gatti would have more of a legend status than mayweather. People will talk about Gatti's incredible comebacks and heart he's shown within his slugfest after slugfest fights. Mayweather? Um, right. I'll talk about how he avoided the ELITE competition in the divisions he won his belts and beat an aged Oscar whose win over Mayoraga doesn't mean anything when Tito already wrecked Mayorga. :boxing:
Hey Wmute, I am black, english, but have followed italian football since i was 7 years old.
So i support italy too, and serie A and Ferrari.
Forza Italia.
Hey Skill, what's up?
what's your fav team? I dont care that much for football anymore, but I was a supporter of Sampdoria.
and of course when it comes to 4 wheels I have a red heart...
btw, do you also follow motogp? i think there you can find the italian "athlete" (sportsman, whatever... you get my point) who italians should be more proud of: Valentino Rossi
is called knowledge babygurl
knowledge of what, baby?
boxing? doesnt look like it... calling mayweather a stiff
genetics? definitely not
english? just a little bit
logic? not even a 5pm shade
In todays times? Probably not. Gatti will probably have more of a "legend" status then PBF. It doesn't matter to me. Appreciate PBF for what he is. Excellence. I'm telling you right now, DLH is going to feel the pain on Cinco de Moe. As far as the rest go, Margrita, Hatton, ...snuffed. Moesly I could see being a great fight.
I think that a lot of hate will be wiped away if he fights and beats DLH, Hatton and Mosley. But in order for him to do that Hatton and Mosley need to stop finding reasons not to fight him. Nobody can say that Floyd hasn't tried to fight these 3 guys for a while now. Its funny that ever since he started talking about retirement Hatton and Mosley all of the sudden want to fight him.
bottom line is a legend would not be an active fighter.......you can't be a hall of famer if you are not retired from the sport so will floyd be a future legend ?
probably yes we will see after his retirement..........
When all has been said and done if PBF beats DLH i will look at PBF in a different light. I will consider PBF a legend in the same way i do SRL and Duran. Legends fight everyone and dont duck noone. To top it off he would need to go back down to 147 and fight Hatton. After Hatton he can do as he pleases as far as i am concerned. But i would like to see him against Mosely for good measures.
I think that a lot of hate will be wiped away if he fights and beats DLH, Hatton and Mosley. But in order for him to do that Hatton and Mosley need to stop finding reasons not to fight him. Nobody can say that Floyd hasn't tried to fight these 3 guys for a while now. Its funny that ever since he started talking about retirement Hatton and Mosley all of the sudden want to fight him.
When all has been said and done if PBF beats DLH i will look at PBF in a different light. I will consider PBF a legend in the same way i do SRL and Duran. Legends fight everyone and dont duck noone. To top it off he would need to go back down to 147 and fight Hatton. After Hatton he can do as he pleases as far as i am concerned. But i would like to see him against Mosely for good measures.