If Andrade Could Box he'd be Unstoppable!

Let me tell you this, Ricardo Mayorga was supposed to train with Emmanuel Steward before the Corey Spinks fight. After 3 days, Steward quit him because he told King that he'd have to totally rebuild him as a fighter and that that simply wasn't feasible. After so many years of boxing, these guys do things just automatically, it's all intrinsically programmed from years of repetition. You can't just assign a new trainer and bring out a Muhammad Ali. A new trainer works primarily as a motivator, bringing out positive aspects of their already learned material. But if you can't box after 20 pro fights, you'll never learn. also chemistry because i dont think someoen will come day after day taking orders and advice someone qho he doesnt like or even disrepsect

If you say so.........then after I watched the Junior Jones vs. Barrera I would have said he's a shot fighter he will never be a great boxer. A good trainer can change a fighter not completely, but enough to make him use the skill he has to his advantage and better defense Let me tell you this, Ricardo Mayorga was supposed to train with Emmanuel Steward before the Corey Spinks fight. After 3 days, Steward quit him because he told King that he'd have to totally rebuild him as a fighter and that that simply wasn't feasible. After so many years of boxing, these guys do things just automatically, it's all intrinsically programmed from years of repetition. You can't just assign a new trainer and bring out a Muhammad Ali. A new trainer works primarily as a motivator, bringing out positive aspects of their already learned material. But if you can't box after 20 pro fights, you'll never learn.

If you say so.........then after I watched the Junior Jones vs. Barrera I would have said he's a shot fighter he will never be a great boxer. A good trainer can change a fighter not completely, but enough to make him use the skill he has to his advantage and better defense

Well, Barrera went from slugger to boxing technician so why not speculate on other fighters who could do the same. Gatti also changed his ways while training with Mcgirt........... What you are bringing up is a completely different subject. Barrera and Gatti were boxers with great amateur backgrounds who started out as boxer-punchers, then as professionals altered their styles to become sluggers. They had switched trainers who made them revert to their more technical foundations. The trainers did nothing to change who they were as fighters. Andrade isn't like those other guys, that's a completely different scenario.

Well, Barrera went from slugger to boxing technician so why not speculate on other fighters who could do the same. Gatti also changed his ways while training with Mcgirt........... Barerra has some of thee fastest hands in the sport, the transition was more mental for Barerra as it was for Gatti who had exceptional boxing skills he just was easy (both men were) to lure into a face first phone booth brawl. Barerra and Gatti really focused on the mental side knowing they could box and just being diciplined enough to apply it consistently over an enitre fight. Librado is a different case, if you have watched his last 3 or 4 fights you know the guy is not as physically gifted as the above mentioned fighters, he isnt even on the same planet in regards to MAB who is truly special. Librado is who he is and that is going to be good enough to beat a lot of fighters, just not the Kesslers and the Calzaghes of the world.

If Andrade could box, learn how to move a little lighter on his feet, I bet he could be a one man wrecking crew. Very hard to beat. I was impressed with his chin. He just needs to have some style. All he was doing was lunging the whole fight. Do you think his future looks bright? I believe he is in thre Golden Boy stable? His chin was incredible......he took many,many flush shots that would have KOed most guys in that division.He appeared unfixable tho....his balance was way off and he is just a brawler very little technique.Far worse than say Lacy who Most people like to say is simply a brawler.

Andrade has a great chin ...But his BOxing skills suck his always of balance

Well, Barrera went from slugger to boxing technician so why not speculate on other fighters who could do the same. Gatti also changed his ways while training with Mcgirt...........

Asian is pretty much on here... Librado is who Librado is and that is not going to change much at all, he will continue to be a rugged badass who walks thru punches and tests the will and heart of all who face him but against the divisions VERY best he will recieve some tough lessons. I still think he can beat alot of fighters out there, love to see him fight Bute or Allan Green (Bute probably beats him and Green probably gets stopped brutally) but guys like Calzaghe and Kessler are just in a seperate league.

If Andrade could box, he'd be a better fighter. More accurately, if Andrade could box, he'd be a different fighter. These kind of hypothetical conditions aren't realistic because they simply aren't the way they are. Andrade has been fighting the way he's been fighting probably since the day he put on gloves, that's not going to change. Mayorga would be unstoppable if he could box also, but he can't so wut we gon do?

But Lacy was dropped, hurt, and cut. Andrade just kept coming. BTW Andrade is one of those boxers that I always wonder how a better trainer can change their whole career around another fighter like that is Lovemore Ndou.........if he had more skill he could be a great fighter.

You guys should've given Lacy this much credit when he took over 1000 punches and kept walking forward for more.

if barrera changed his style why can't andrade, atleast his must-change thing is possible unlike zab's stupid glass chin

If Wladimir Klitschko had a granite chin he'd be one of the most formidiabble champions ever. If Floyd Mayweather had one punch KO power he'd be the most amazing boxer ever. If Edison Miranda had a bit more variety in technique and speed he'd be a middleweight god. There are many boxers that are only missing one element- one thing standing in their way from perfection. That's why you occasionally you hear the term 'total package'. It means a boxer has everything he could possibly need. There are dozens of fighters who would be amazing if they had one attribute they lacked- it's a moot point. Every fighter is what they are because of what they have and what they lack. Don't forget how scary Juan Diaz would be if he had KO power.

If Wladimir Klitschko had a granite chin he'd be one of the most formidiabble champions ever. If Floyd Mayweather had one punch KO power he'd be the most amazing boxer ever. If Edison Miranda had a bit more variety in technique and speed he'd be a middleweight god. There are many boxers that are only missing one element- one thing standing in their way from perfection. That's why you occasionally you hear the term 'total package'. It means a boxer has everything he could possibly need. There are dozens of fighters who would be amazing if they had one attribute they lacked- it's a moot point. Every fighter is what they are because of what they have and what they lack.

Exactly. If he had better boxing skills he may be a top fighter. Sure, but good boxing skills are not easy to have or develop. exactly, he will probably fight this way for the rest of his career. His boxing skills might get a little better, but his style is to keep coming forward. He has a lot of heart and his chin alone keeps him in fights to the very end.

Wouldnt that be the same though with everyone with a good chin though? Exactly. If he had better boxing skills he may be a top fighter. Sure, but good boxing skills are not easy to have or develop.

Wouldnt that be the same though with everyone with a good chin though?

he is still unstoppable the way he is now, just not winnable...... he needs to spend some 6 months in a serious camp with a serious trainer to refine his skills...then he could be a force!

His style is to come forward he just needs a trainer that will show him better techniques on cutting off the ring and going to work on ur opponent.