Hwat allowed Judah to win those 4 rounds?
Was Mayweather holding back? Did he want Zab to get overconfident?
Or did Zab just stray from his winning gameplan after round 4?
floyd tried outspeeding zab
zab was too quick
hit floyd with a right hand counter
and actually knocked him down (floyd's glove touched the canvas)
from then on (after round 4 or 5)...floyd adapted and came forward
with both hands up (like winky) and simply outsmarted zab
zab eventually ran out of gas and was unable to
counter mayweathers change in strategy
Zab also is a front runner. Which is a shame given his physique, he tires out. I don't see how, cause he looks in tremendous shape, maybe he just lacks the heart to keep fighting.
Hey Einstein,
Even if what you said was true (which it isn't), YOU'LL see that Judah still lost.
Round 1: 10-9 Zab
Round 2: 10-9 Zab
Round 3: 10-9 Zab
Round 4: 10-8 Zab
Round 5: 10-9 Floyd
Round 6: 10-9 Floyd
Round 7: 10-9 Floyd
Round 8: 10-9 Floyd
Round 9: 10-9 Floyd
Round 10: 10-9 Floyd
Round 11: 10-9 Floyd
Round 12: 10-9 Zab
Total: Zab: 113, Floyd: 114.
Nice try, though.
Damn. All this time I thought it was a draw.... :nonono:
Zab won rounds 1,2,3,4, and the last round. Add to that the knockdown, you'll see that it was a draw.
Hey Einstein,
Even if what you said was true (which it isn't), YOU'LL see that Judah still lost.
Round 1: 10-9 Zab
Round 2: 10-9 Zab
Round 3: 10-9 Zab
Round 4: 10-8 Zab
Round 5: 10-9 Floyd
Round 6: 10-9 Floyd
Round 7: 10-9 Floyd
Round 8: 10-9 Floyd
Round 9: 10-9 Floyd
Round 10: 10-9 Floyd
Round 11: 10-9 Floyd
Round 12: 10-9 Zab
Total: Zab: 113, Floyd: 114.
Nice try, though.
Floyd adjusted brilliantly.
For the first 4 rounds Floyd was trying to set up his straight right hand with his jab. The problem was, Zab was timing Floyd's jab and was countering him with Right hooks which set up his straight left.
From round 4 on, Floyd pretty much almost abandoned the jab, and started throwing straight right leads, which landed on Zab's chin almost every time. He just couldn't get out of the way. That allowed Mayweather to really get in a groove and opened up Judah for some vicious left hooks to the body and to the head (but the left hook to the body was dynamite for Floyd).
I wish there was compubox numbers available for the number of jabs Mayweather threw in the first 4 rounds, compared to what he threw the rest of the fight. There is a dramatic difference.
This fight showcases one of the best boxing adjustments mid-fight, that I have seen in quite some time. And what's so brilliant about the adjustment that Floyd made, is that it was very subtle.
Zab was not broken down and lost mentally only after four rounds, especially if he was doing his best against Mayweather up to that point...
you can see a completely new style in the way Mayweather fights as the fight went on. The first two rounds werent going good for him with his default style, and he changed his style to one that personally reminded me a bit of Winky Wright's...which started to work perfect as the fight went on.
It doesnt striek you right away, but if you look at Mayweathers career, hes actually an incredibly versitle fighter.
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Mayweather probably knew that Judah gets frustrated easily. So I bet Mayweather let him fight his fight at the beginning rounds to get his confidence up; then destroyed it when he turned the fight around.
Don't forget that even in the rounds that Mayweather lost, he looked quite competitive still. It isn't like it was a Mayweather vs Gatti round.
I am starting to think some of you guys never watched Zab fight prior to his fight with Kostya Tszyu:
Zab was World Class, both Physically and Mentally up to the point he fought Tszyu. He was hurt before the Tszyu bout but was still confident and won.
His speed, power, and ability was great.
When he went up against Tszyu, I am pretty sure Tszyu was the underdog for this reason, and not so much about his own decline (in regards to Tszyu).
When Zab got knocked down, up, down, and TKO loss, it hurt him mentally. He would be suspended and this add on to the hurt of the TKO loss and stoppage he felt wasn't deserved. Zab just wasn't the same.
This is why he is strong in the begining, and breaks down later on, especially if he gets tagged.
Zab has still remained physically gifted.
Lets also not forget what he did to the slick Corey Spinks in both fights. He lost the first fight, but that was mental. The second, he just went for the kill to end it.
I don't know, the last interview I saw with Zab on Friday Night Fights, he did seem a bit more mature. We will see.
I think it was simply because that was the first time Floyd was facing someone quicker than himself...quicker on the release...being the smart fighter that Floyd is, he took his time...allowed himself to lose a couple of rounds while he used that time to adjust...eventually began timing his lead right hand and realizing he needed to walk Zab down and pressure him rather than trying to box him from the outside with speed...
it was all about adjustments and body shots...Judah got tired from body shots and pressure...I cannot stand people saying "oh he just automatically got tired...Judah has thrown more shots than that before...
pretty much what he said. Floyd is smart and knew Judah's only chance was in the early rounds, Mayweather was being cautious, getting caught cause Zab was doin well but once that speed advantage went the other way Judah was on the down hill slide
It was easy to see the gameplan from the opening bell. Floyd was watching for the straight left the whole fight. It landed a few good times in the early rounds, then Floyd adjusted a little and rolled to a UD. I had Zab winning the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 12th rounds. The 3rd was close, but the rest were clearly Floyd. If Zab would've had a real trainer he might have been more prepared and possibly won.
Judah was doing good while Floyd let him use up all his energy. Zab didn't hurt Floyd during those rounds but did knock him off balance. Floyd was smiling while Judah was throwing. Floyd attacked the body after that and broke Judah down.
hahahaha good thing floyd LET him then huh
Judah was doing good while Floyd let him use up all his energy. Zab didn't hurt Floyd during those rounds but did knock him off balance. Floyd was smiling while Judah was throwing. Floyd attacked the body after that and broke Judah down.
judah won 2 rounds..by no means did he win the first four rounds, unless your a floyd hater then judah won four rounds I have seen haters give him five rounds. The fight was a whitewash. judah got dominated in rounds 3, 5,6,7,8,9,10,11
he was competitive in rounds 1,2,4,12 of the rounds he was competitive in I gave him rounds 4, 12.
This is when you know your sucking Floyd's cock.. Denying Judah his four rounds :nonono:
In Short Judah Was at his best the first 4 rounds Slacked off like most of his fights and end up getting Pissed lost his sense ended up losing on points..
Floyd talked about his relationship with Judah. He said he and Judah had sparred and I guess Judging from his sparring sessions, they knew that Judah was a strong beginer but a terrible finisher. Like the person who starts something but never finishes the job. Like someone who has A.D.D. That is Zab Judah. Mayweather compared Judah to a race horse who starts off strong but gets beat in the final stretch or passed up in the poles. These are called front runners.
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It all came down to conditioning and ring smarts. Had that been a different fighter in Floyd's corner that night, Judah might've won decisively.
It's not very often that you see a fighter getting beat to punch then make a noticeable adjustment during the fight to pull out the win.
That fight should be added to the Boxing 101 class as required viewing: "Changing Your Strategy In The Heat of Battle". Aka: Scrap the game plan; think out of the box.
The low blow is a good strategy when you're tired and getting beat.
You'll just need to edit out the part where everybody and their mom goes nuts and starts throwing haymakers in the ring. :boxing:
I think it was simply because that was the first time Floyd was facing someone quicker than himself...quicker on the release...being the smart fighter that Floyd is, he took his time...allowed himself to lose a couple of rounds while he used that time to adjust...eventually began timing his lead right hand and realizing he needed to walk Zab down and pressure him rather than trying to box him from the outside with speed...
it was all about adjustments and body shots...Judah got tired from body shots and pressure...I cannot stand people saying "oh he just automatically got tired...Judah has thrown more shots than that before...
Judah had a good start and fought a controlled fight early on and used his speed and southpaw style to good use.
PBF made adjustments, timed his straight right hand better, went to the body with consistency, and dominated from round 5 up until the 10th round low blow.
I couldn't put it down to just one thing myself.
Judah seeed like he wouldn't be denied. He seemed like the better man.
My impression as it was unfolding was that it was a proverbial "style" surprise. It appeared Zab had just what was needed to completely neutralize Mayweather's arsenal. Floyd looked completely naked out there at times.
But like I've said before; once Mayweather got back in it you could see it was all a bluff. Zab was gambling, and once he started to lose hands he folded.
The way that Floyd was walking into straight left hands, and the right hook that caused the KD were quite a shock for me.
But you could see Mayweather's determination, and even when Zab hurt him with that brick - you could tell Floyd would find a way to win.
It all had similarities to the scene in "Enter" where Bruce is losing and starts changing up his flow and finds a rythm. Floyd did something similiar. He shortened up his punches and started full body painting Judah with gloves.
He broke Zab like Bruce broke Chuck. But Chuck went out like a soldier.
Zab's story became some cheesy B-movie at that point..
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What he said!
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