I'm Pretty sure Mayweathers defence isn't perfect but I can't imagine Oscar getting past it.
As we all know Oscar will need to throw more than 1 punch at a time to hurt Mayweather. But do you think Oscar can catch Mayweather with a big left hook while Mayweather's coming in?
More than likely
We all know what mayweather has been saying..."Im ganna slug it out with Oscar"... "Ima beat dat ass"... "Ima stand there toe to toe and bust him up"
But we all know thats not going to happen. I dont like Mayweather at all. But I still have to respect him as a great fighter.
If he does stand toe to toe with Oscar as he promised... he's ganna get knocked the fuck out and quick.
If he does the regular Mayweather and runs around trying to throw short weak combinations_ it wont be nearly as effective...remember that he's fighting OSCAR DE La HOYA, not Carlos Baldomier.
De La Hoya will move forward putting the pressure on Mayweather who probably wont be at his peak of speed being that this is like the 4th time he's moving up in weight.
I feel more than confident that Oscar will expose Floyd's guard and come out with a KO victory over Floyd.
Dont you know DLH is countin on us?
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Nah nah nah friend. This is what the forum is all about . . . opinions.
The fact is, no matter what we members post and discuss in here, it doesn't affect the fighters, not DLH or any other fighter.
Just for the sake of discussion, dude. :)
Yeah i know chum. But i keep thinking Eddie Futch and Angelo Dundee is amonst us somewhere with all this tactics talk:boxing:
Oscar should have a big reach advantage on Floyd. He should jab a lot and look to set up his left hook or right hand as Floyd tries to come inside. Floyd is going to have to reach to get inside on Oscar, as long as Oscar is not coming forward. I think Oscar will try to use lateral movement and keep just on the end of his jabbing range. If Oscar sticks too close to Floyd, he'll nullify his height/reach and Floyd will be able to use his superior handspeed and land body shots or quick combinations to win over the judges. Even though Oscar is bigger, I think he will be careful about when he chooses to engage.
can floyd rock oscar with one punch? no.
can oscar afford to take a shot here and there for his more important punches to land on floyd? easy.
oscar's attrition is the only thing that's gonna get him an L. if he can stay loose for the whole fight floyd is going to feel some power he's never had to deal with. but if the workrate isn't there floyd can get him out of there in 10 or 11 rounds.
I'm picking Floyd. But I'm figuring what Oscar needs to do, is indeed work the jab, stay on the outside and counter, and see if he can catch him. Oscar is a great finisher.
If Oscar goes after him and tries to break his defense, IMO Oscar loses badly.
It's not that simple. I have seen Floyd use different strategies with different opponents. With Corrales he backed up alot and jabbed to the body setting up his left hook. Against Gatti he stood in the pocket and traded and bested him easily. Against Castillo he jabbed to the head and clinched alot so he wouldnt have to fight inside.
Different strategies for different opponents. It is not as simple as just timing your left hook with a right hand lead.
oscar fights like none of those guys, so chances are we'e going to see something different from floyd on fight night. he can't outbox oscar, he's gonna have to be smarter than dlh if pretty boy wants the win. i think though, dlh can make mistakes in this fight, pbf can't
Good assessment dr filth.
This fight will be all about timing for De La Hoya. Floyd does have some tells, especialy when he is setting up that right hand lead he loves to throw. If Oscar can time his left hook over Floyds right, I think he can pull out a win.
i bet this will be in teddy atlas's tips before the fight... and oscar has an excellent left hook - this is his best chance, especially later on in the fight when they both start to get tired and not folow the gameplan. when they're both fighting on automatic pilot late in the fight in this time for this
Oscar can't just change his style at the tail end of his career. He stands straight up, he is textbook, and he likes to fight on the outside. Castillo is a squat, muscular guy who pressures inside and uses alot of feints and clinching. Oscar can't just mirror Castillo - it wont work anyways.
then his best chance is probably to play counterpuncher, make floyd go first and time his punches. oscar has excellent technique, he has a good jab and left hook and no matter what the nuthuggers say about speed being power, floyd can't bang with dlh.
Lots of boxing opinions here as if this forum is full of wanabee trainers. I think DLH has seen enough tapes of PBF and knows in his own mind what hes got to do. DLH is pretty smart when it comes to boxing. He knows what it takes. Im sure he has got a plan A, and if it dont work a plan B and C.
Dont you know DLH is countin on us?
I'm Pretty sure Mayweathers defence isn't perfect but I can't imagine Oscar getting past it.
As we all know Oscar will need to throw more than 1 punch at a time to hurt Mayweather. But do you think Oscar can catch Mayweather with a big left hook while Mayweather's coming in?
Now if you put Floyd above humanity kid.. you are only going to be dissapointed. How will ODLH get through Floyds defense is the rideculous question.. AKS yourself .. How did Corley? Burton/Agustus? Castillio? Judah? Baldomir??? all mange to hit Floyd??? because he is ONLY human fool..
And if Carlos Baldomir can connect on Floyd.. You better believe ODLH can
Every fighter who goes up the ring get's hit buddy. Oscar doesn't have to chase PBF. He needs to wait for PBF to come in and let him pay while doing so. Oscar needs to invest on body punches instead of head hunting. If DLH slows down PBF and forced the guy to trade and force him to play defense then DLH will be okay.
floyd doesn't like pressure. if dlh could fight more like jl castillo this time around he could get to floyd. i just don't think oscar has the stamina to cut off the ring and hit floyd's body for 12 rounds
Lots of boxing opinions here as if this forum is full of wanabee trainers. I think DLH has seen enough tapes of PBF and knows in his own mind what hes got to do. DLH is pretty smart when it comes to boxing. He knows what it takes. Im sure he has got a plan A, and if it dont work a plan B and C.
beat on his arms, body and shoulder until mayweather slows down. I would say do not even consider his head for 4 rounds. make sure all of his left arm hurts like hell. make sure the defensive movements that are usually so instinctive as painful as possible after a few rounds.
Oscar has a huge problem here: is stamina.
if you want to bully mayweather you need it.
if you want to give him side movements, you need it.
as for timing mayweather? forget about it
I was thinking pretty much the same thing. If Oscar tries to bully Floyd around he'll be gassed after 8 instead of 10 and Floyd will pick him apart easily for the last 4 rounds. I would expect Floyd to fight DLH much like he did Judah. He'll be watching for the left all day and ducking down to his left instead of right to avoid it. He'll potshot and get inside on DLH to avoid being hit because when have you ever seen DLH fight inside? Every significant punch I've ever seen him land has been from the outside. If Oscar comes at Floyd hard to go for a KO then I would expect Floyd to constantly be moving and covering up letting Oscar wear himself down. He should win an easy UD and then have to hear everyone say he shouldn't be considered great because he didn't KO Oscar like he said he would.
IMO he's gonna do it with the straight right...
The way Tszyu did against Judah...
That's worth thinking about. Oscar's made people touch the canvas with his right before. It's not like he's a 'hook only' puncher.
beat on his arms, body and shoulder until mayweather slows down. I would say do not even consider his head for 4 rounds. make sure all of his left arm hurts like hell. make sure the defensive movements that are usually so instinctive as painful as possible after a few rounds.
Oscar has a huge problem here: is stamina.
if you want to bully mayweather you need it.
if you want to give him side movements, you need it.
as for timing mayweather? forget about it
In one of the interviews with Floyd, the guy mentioned, timing beats speed. Floyd didn't really know what to say, he sorta smiled. I think he knows and Oscar knows, this is the way to beat Floyd. All about timing him. Either Oscar will have to act as the counter puncher, or time his shots in exchanges with Floyd. Though I don't see many exchanges happening once Floyd gets a taste.
yes the jab is the key. Oscar has a hard jab and if establish it or use it to set up counter left's off of MAyweather's counter right it would be very effective to breaking down Mayweather.
He also needs to move side to side and trap Floyd into coming forward and engaging. He can catch FLoyd by countering. If Floyd drops his hands and shoulder rolls on the ropes DLH should be prepared to punish him with shots to the shoulders, arms and body no head hunting.
that would be a good plan. he could catch floyd reachin in. i dont think oscar is as fast as floyd but i fell that he has enough speed to at least keep up with him. Oscar will have to be on top of his game. but the jab to the head AND body. stiff jabs to the body will begin to bring floyds defense down sum.
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