NAZ vs JCC

It would be similar to the Hamed - McCullough fight. Except Chavez would wear Hamed down and stop him. Hamed was being put down by Featherweights, Chavez would do more damage in the later rounds, Hamed would be tired, sloppy, and trying to survive. It would be like the Terrance Alli fight, or manybe like Cotto-Quintana.

It would be similar to the Hamed - McCullough fight. Except Chavez would wear Hamed down and stop him. Hamed was being put down by Featherweights, Chavez would do more damage in the later rounds, Hamed would be tired, sloppy, and trying to survive.

First off, they arent even in the same league. JCC is a legand who went up against the best of his time. I mean the fight with Meldrick Taylor was EPIC. Chavez could beat NAZ with one hand behind his back and no training. I seriously think Chavez on his worst day would literlly put NAZ in a body bag. NAZ was ALL HYPE. He had no staying power, he faced bums, he out boxed people who werent good. He is a fucking JOKE. Seriouysly he was nothing then and never will be, just a loud mouth pretend champ. Hmm ok so we'll consider him a nothing but what does that make you?

dumbest thread ever First off, they arent even in the same league. JCC is a legand who went up against the best of his time. I mean the fight with Meldrick Taylor was EPIC. Chavez could beat NAZ with one hand behind his back and no training. I seriously think Chavez on his worst day would literlly put NAZ in a body bag. NAZ was ALL HYPE. He had no staying power, he faced bums, he out boxed people who werent good. He is a fucking JOKE. Seriouysly he was nothing then and never will be, just a loud mouth pretend champ.

I would like to know who are the 9 who voted naz, so i can ignore their opinions with respect to boxing in the future. for heaven's sake, naz fought (and got owned by MAB coming up from 122) at 126, chavez was a 3div champ at 130,135,140 and was never hurt in the process. what does that tell you?

Alrigth we already had the Pac Naz how about JCC agaisnt naz. This would also be a very intersting fight. I think JCC would get KO by Naz since he had one of the best chins in boxing. I think chavez wins this one by late KO or UD. Naz has great power but Chavez has the chin, JCC aint gettin KO'd! This for me even taking into account Naz was very quick and unnorthadox ect is an easy fight to pick - CHAVEZ!

Total mismatch, Naz would have no chance against a guy like Chavez. The people picking Naz in this fight are committing boxing sacrilege, soiling a legitimate poll with nonsense.

chavez would murder him, naz was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to small for chavez Amen Brotha!!!!

not only was chavez just a better fighter, but he also fought at higher weight classes, from 130 to 140. hamed fought mostly at 126 and below. chavez wins.

I apploigize, my bad, i shouldn't have came off like that. I just got a bit pissed off when people started talking ko or how Naz would beat Chavez. My bad you're right is just there opinions. I appoligize. :puppy_dog No worries. People just seem to get carried away at this place and it leads to thread after thread of seemingly intelligent people conversing like arrogant fools instead of using their intellect and knowledge to have reasonable and interesting debates. Its easy to get caught up in it.

Doesnt mean that you have to structure your argument like an idiot, does it? People have their opinions, respectfully disagree with them and say why you disagree. Dont bother with the 'fuck off nut-hugger' bullshit, otherwise why would anyone want to listen to what you have to say? If anything, the fact that you know you are so blatantly right should make it easier for you to get people to listen to you and agree with you, rather than putting them off. I apploigize, my bad, i shouldn't have came off like that. I just got a bit pissed off when people started talking ko or how Naz would beat Chavez. My bad you're right is just there opinions. I appoligize. :puppy_dog

Thats cause you're talkinag about a living legend in Chavez. Where as Naz quit/retired early rather then pick up the pieces and try again. Doesnt mean that you have to structure your argument like an idiot, does it? People have their opinions, respectfully disagree with them and say why you disagree. Dont bother with the 'fuck off nut-hugger' bullshit, otherwise why would anyone want to listen to what you have to say? If anything, the fact that you know you are so blatantly right should make it easier for you to get people to listen to you and agree with you, rather than putting them off.

Why instead dont you say "You're wrong...I think that your biasy for Naz is clouding your judgement as Chavez' style would be custom made for defeating someone like Naz, as evidenced by his greater fight record etc"? That way people might actually bother to read the rest of your post, instead of assuming that you're yet another one of those NSB morons who talks about nut-hugging, ducking fighers, protected fighters, haters and thinks that their opinion is always correct, instead of having credible boxing debates. Thats cause you're talkinag about a living legend in Chavez. Where as Naz quit/retired early rather then pick up the pieces and try again.

Those who say Naz could beat or even KO Chavez..I say fuck off and get off Naz nuts! Why instead dont you say "You're wrong...I think that your biasy for Naz is clouding your judgement as Chavez' style would be custom made for defeating someone like Naz, as evidenced by his greater fight record etc"? That way people might actually bother to read the rest of your post, instead of assuming that you're yet another one of those NSB morons who talks about nut-hugging, ducking fighers, protected fighters, haters and thinks that their opinion is always correct, instead of having credible boxing debates.

Those who say Naz could beat or even KO Chavez..I say fuck off and get off Naz nuts! Two fighters, i will point too and basicly its end of argument. Wayne McCullough and Cesar Soto. So Naz kissers, relax. Your boy was protected in Europe. Anybody can look good against lower caliber fighters but not anyone can look good against quailty fighters. Even before Naz hit Hbo he was on Showtime and besides his power, there was nothing special about him, what made Naz is his power. And even then he couldn't ko the granite McCullough and Soto, shit people felt he lost to Soto. Naz is over rated by his fanatics. When Barrera beat him, i was surprised, cause i felt Barrera was already past his best, yet he still was able to beat Naz. And what showing did he give after the Barrera fight? A worse showing that sent him back to retirement even though he won a decision. Chavez murders Naz.

At his best, in his prime, with the best performance of his career, Chavez would still have been far too much for him. Hamed was a very good fighter, Chavez was a great fighter, and stylistically Chavez would be all wrong for Hamed.

Why can you not seem to be able to take into context what I'm saying, despite your multiple quotes? Naz had the tools to take out anyone in that division ON HIS DAY, even if they were at their best too. That doesnt mean that he always fought ON HIS DAY or that he would fight people AT HIS BEST everytime. In fact, in your second quote of me I'm saying that I never said that he definitely WOULD dominate everyone in the division because of the earlier clause about him being 'on his day'. You understand this right? If not, you ought to take a little longer to think about it. People dont always perform to the best of their abilities. There are external factors too. I have not demonstrated any contradiction here.

make up your mind

I said 'on his day'. Tyson got schooled by Danny Williams. Sure, Barrera was much better than Williams, but Tyson was hardly on his day there. I also never said that Naz was better than Barrera or that he WOULD dominate everyone on the division. Just that he had the incredible capabilities of being able to take anyone in the world out of the ring on his day. When he was on his day he was pretty much unfightable. .......................

Huh?? Same reason as I voted for Naz against Pac. On his day (which we are assuming that they both would be) Naz had the tools to take out anyone in the division even on their best day, quite easily. .........................