Looking back at De La Hoya-Chavez

Ur asking how does he know how hard Chavez hit, yet u urself dont know wat fights he has watched. Just because his opinion differs from urs. Chavez's punches had more of a acumilative effect. Whereas DLH had more one punch power. IMO. Steel Gloves is just a heckler looking to make a name for himself. Here's my early Christmas gift to Steel Gloves: To my biggest fan, Ryan Songalia Now his life is complete lol

With Chavez (and his record) against a young fighter still proving himself at a new weight, it was not a total mismatch. Good post. If Chavez didnt get cut up, he would of started to break DLH up in the later rounds. Im still not sure who wins tho. Ur asking how does he know how hard Chavez hit, yet u urself dont know wat fights he has watched. Just because his opinion differs from urs. Chavez's punches had more of a acumilative effect. Whereas DLH had more one punch power. IMO. He don't know what he's talking about. When will we have another closed circuit ppv like the Chavez v. Delahoya fight again? It'll take another many years. I rember they showed the fight on a big screen at a school gym and it was packed, they keep allowing people to pay to see the fight and some group of people the ones that arrived late had to watch the fight on a regualar tv in a school class room. Everybody was undecided of who was going to win. The atmosphere was great.

On paper, it was a total mismatch.. With Chavez (and his record) against a young fighter still proving himself at a new weight, it was not a total mismatch. I think those who are so sure of picking oscar prime4prime are overrating his skills: this guy is not a slickster, he wastes too much movement, he would be the bigger man in the ring, but he would not be able to move all night. pea did it: look at pea's legs, then look at oscar's legs. moreover pea was able to stand on the inside/midrange slipping punches and covering his body. Oscar would not be able to do that. period. he would get tagged on the body so many times that his legs would be gone late in the fight (oscar's stamina is not that great). prime4prime I see oscar winning the early rounds with potshotting, but being no sweet pea he would have to slow down, when the fight became a fight a prime chavez would start winning rounds. the winner would be a matter of when the tide changes. in a 15 round fight it would be chavez for sure, maybe by late stoppage. Good post. If Chavez didnt get cut up, he would of started to break DLH up in the later rounds. Im still not sure who wins tho. How do you know honestly? Have you been hit by a De La Hoya or a Chavez punch? I'm convinced that you haven't seen many JCC fights. Have you ever heard of Macho Camacho, the defensive juggernaut? Do you know what Chavez did to him? What about Edwin Rosario, one of the hardest punchers P4P ever (he single-handedly made Camacho change his boxing style)? Have you seen what Chavez did to his face before the fight had to be stopped? Do you know how seriously fucked up my man Meldrick Taylor was after both his fights with JCC? Any of these fighters would have went the distance with DLH if not beat him. Ask Roger Mayweather how hard Chavez punches. What about Greg Haugen, a boxer who was in tough-man competitions where he fought much bigger guys then him. I’m talking 2 or 3 weight classes higher. He thought he was easily going to be able to take Chavez’s punches because of this. Meldrick also had gone up in weight and thought that because he had lasted with bigger, stronger fighters, that Chavez’s blows wouldn’t have much effect on him. I’m not hating, but you should seriously study the boxers you choose to write about before you go and do shit like this. I understand that DLH was taller, with much longer arms, but Chavez had a chin like no one else in his prime, and wasn’t as slow as people thought. Oscar wasn’t as fast as you’re saying, and I doubt he would run from Chavez all night like other fighters would, even though that would be the smart thing to do. Ur asking how does he know how hard Chavez hit, yet u urself dont know wat fights he has watched. Just because his opinion differs from urs. Chavez's punches had more of a acumilative effect. Whereas DLH had more one punch power. IMO.

The difference is that De La Hoya was longer and hit much harder. Chavez had no problem taking 2 to land one against Taylor, but that same thing was taking years of his life with De La Hoya. When I watch the ring walk for the fight, Chavez is walking out to his usual fanfare composed as hell. That's when I knew to respect older fighters. Here is Chavez, knowing in his mind that he's fixing to get his comeuppance in the ring, about to be publicly humiliated by a younger, stronger fighter, and he's just outwardly oblivious to this. He has heart, he has balls. How do you know honestly? Have you been hit by a De La Hoya or a Chavez punch? I'm convinced that you haven't seen many JCC fights. Have you ever heard of Macho Camacho, the defensive juggernaut? Do you know what Chavez did to him? What about Edwin Rosario, one of the hardest punchers P4P ever (he single-handedly made Camacho change his boxing style)? Have you seen what Chavez did to his face before the fight had to be stopped? Do you know how seriously fucked up my man Meldrick Taylor was after both his fights with JCC? Any of these fighters would have went the distance with DLH if not beat him. Ask Roger Mayweather how hard Chavez punches. What about Greg Haugen, a boxer who was in tough-man competitions where he fought much bigger guys then him. I’m talking 2 or 3 weight classes higher. He thought he was easily going to be able to take Chavez’s punches because of this. Meldrick also had gone up in weight and thought that because he had lasted with bigger, stronger fighters, that Chavez’s blows wouldn’t have much effect on him. I’m not hating, but you should seriously study the boxers you choose to write about before you go and do shit like this. I understand that DLH was taller, with much longer arms, but Chavez had a chin like no one else in his prime, and wasn’t as slow as people thought. Oscar wasn’t as fast as you’re saying, and I doubt he would run from Chavez all night like other fighters would, even though that would be the smart thing to do.

chavez couldnt beat de la hoya at any point in their career period...de la hoya was a greatest mexican fighter ever thats why he could move thru weights...and chavez was only 32 the first time they fought

Sure made a mess of Chavez :boxing: Watch the fight below: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=De+La+Hoya-Chavez http://www.reviewjournal.com/images/webextras/gallery/karlsen/bloody_chavez.jpg Chavez already had a small cut going into the fight.

I think those who are so sure of picking oscar prime4prime are overrating his skills: this guy is not a slickster, he wastes too much movement, he would be the bigger man in the ring, but he would not be able to move all night. pea did it: look at pea's legs, then look at oscar's legs. moreover pea was able to stand on the inside/midrange slipping punches and covering his body. Oscar would not be able to do that. period. he would get tagged on the body so many times that his legs would be gone late in the fight (oscar's stamina is not that great). prime4prime I see oscar winning the early rounds with potshotting, but being no sweet pea he would have to slow down, when the fight became a fight a prime chavez would start winning rounds. the winner would be a matter of when the tide changes. in a 15 round fight it would be chavez for sure, maybe by late stoppage. I aggree, people forget that Delahoya gets winded in the middle of the rounds. Chavez doesn't have this problem. I too go with Chavez in this match up.

I think those who are so sure of picking oscar prime4prime are overrating his skills: this guy is not a slickster, he wastes too much movement, he would be the bigger man in the ring, but he would not be able to move all night. pea did it: look at pea's legs, then look at oscar's legs. moreover pea was able to stand on the inside/midrange slipping punches and covering his body. Oscar would not be able to do that. period. he would get tagged on the body so many times that his legs would be gone late in the fight (oscar's stamina is not that great). prime4prime I see oscar winning the early rounds with potshotting, but being no sweet pea he would have to slow down, when the fight became a fight a prime chavez would start winning rounds. the winner would be a matter of when the tide changes. in a 15 round fight it would be chavez for sure, maybe by late stoppage.

Tell that to Meldrick Taylor. Taylor might have stood in 1 second to long on his combinations, (just long enough for Chavez to throw that one shot back), but Meldrick Taylor is def 1 second faster than the afforementioned. The difference is that De La Hoya was longer and hit much harder. Chavez had no problem taking 2 to land one against Taylor, but that same thing was taking years of his life with De La Hoya. When I watch the ring walk for the fight, Chavez is walking out to his usual fanfare composed as hell. That's when I knew to respect older fighters. Here is Chavez, knowing in his mind that he's fixing to get his comeuppance in the ring, about to be publicly humiliated by a younger, stronger fighter, and he's just outwardly oblivious to this. He has heart, he has balls.

I would also have to go with DLH based on his size and overall boxing skills. Prime Chavez or not DLH would've won it.

The same with Mayweather, I just think that if you had skill, could move, and make Chavez fight at a distance, he had no prayer. Tell that to Meldrick Taylor. Taylor might have stood in 1 second to long on his combinations, (just long enough for Chavez to throw that one shot back), but Meldrick Taylor is def 1 second faster than the afforementioned.

u had to stand your ground with chavez, not use too much movement. chavez was very good at cutting off the ring. taylor despite using some movement spent a lot of time trading at mid and close range with chavez and piling up points and winning rounds, but was taking a lot of punishment gradually. whitaker used movement but he also stood his ground at times and even outmuscled chavez up close and pushed him into the ropes. I agree, but De La Hoya was just so much bigger, even when they were in the ring at the same weight, De La Hoya just looked 2 divisions bigger.

Really, I'd have to say that De La Hoya beats Chavez at any weight, because De La Hoya's style was one that Chavez couldn't cope with. The same with Mayweather, I just think that if you had skill, could move, and make Chavez fight at a distance, he had no prayer. u had to stand your ground with chavez, not use too much movement. chavez was very good at cutting off the ring. taylor despite using some movement spent a lot of time trading at mid and close range with chavez and piling up points and winning rounds, but was taking a lot of punishment gradually. whitaker used movement but he also stood his ground at times and even outmuscled chavez up close and pushed him into the ropes.

prime Oscar beats prime Chavez in any weight.

who would have won Prime De La Hoya VS Prime Chaves? at light welter??? i go with De La Hoya Really, I'd have to say that De La Hoya beats Chavez at any weight, because De La Hoya's style was one that Chavez couldn't cope with. The same with Mayweather, I just think that if you had skill, could move, and make Chavez fight at a distance, he had no prayer.

I would still favor Oscar...Oscar, even at the lighter weights, was always big and strong for those divisions.

I'd would be hard to bet against Chavez at 140 or 135, but then again, Oscar is much bigger and longer and would be a tough fight. But Chavez in his prime, I don't see him losing to any version of Oscar.

who would have won Prime De La Hoya VS Prime Chaves? at light welter??? i go with De La Hoya CHAVEZ BY DECISION

who would have won Prime De La Hoya VS Prime Chaves? at light welter??? i go with De La Hoya