Morales is extremely popular among Mexicans and latinos. Pacquiao is the most popular celebrity (not just boxer) among Philipinos. These guys are very well known. If they were only known by hardcore fans, they would be doing 30k buys like Margarito...
these days its about name status and not weight class. i dont even see the signifigance in mentioning something about featherweights, when those 2 are a couple of the greatest feathers who have ever lived.
You should never make a guarantee of Williams beating Margarito. Williams has a poor defense and keeps his hands down too low. Every opponent he fought is able to land their best shots. He says you have to take a few to land a few, well Margarito is not the kind of fighter you let land a few.
I agree, which is why i have no reservations whatsoever about williams, i dont care what happened in sparring.
you bringing up what mosley/vargas did is fucking retarded. you have 2 superstars fighting there whereas you only have one fighting in the floyd fight. i guarantee if mosley/baldy or vargas/baldy would of happened it would of been the same or less buys.
Morales vs Pac II sold 375,000 ppvs and a sold out arena. And they are featherweights, and Morales had just come off a single sided loss at the hands of raheem. Not many outside of hardcore fans know Pacquiao, and Morales. And they werent fighting for a title.
come the fuck on, prime Oscar would've KO'd his ass.. Right now, he still has a chance to beat him, Mayweather is overrated.
you are a fucking joke, oscar always had problems with pure boxers and lost or should of lost when he came acrossed a good one. floyd would beat any version of oscar. GET MAD!!!
Mayweather got Gatti a known fighter to the public for his first ppv. Margarito got an unknown. See the difference?
If you don't think a Tony v. Floyd fight would do at least 300 thousand then you are not knowing whats going on in the boxing world. People are starting or already have been informed of Margarito, and as i've said in the past Margaritos name will be mentioned when they talk about Maywether and have to disect his career.
If and when Margarito wins in December, im sure the talk Mayweather to face him will be great, but don't be surprised if Margarito doesn't even call out floyd because Margarito has already said he is tire of chasing him down.
the only reason most people heard of marg is from bob arum throwing his name out there like he is some superstar not because of his fights, get it right.
No they arent, Mosley-Vargas 1 and 2 did more than that. The first did well over 400K buys. Most UFC events do higher buys than 300K. The fact that he's been a pay-per-view fighter since last year, and there has been no growth in his buy numbers shows legit problems with his ability to sell fights.
you bringing up what mosley/vargas did is fucking retarded. you have 2 superstars fighting there whereas you only have one fighting in the floyd fight. i guarantee if mosley/baldy or vargas/baldy would of happened it would of been the same or less buys.
Williams is a very good fighter, but Margarito is just as active, is the stronger of the two, has a more solid chin and punches harder. I can see Williams win a few rounds but in the end Margarito's gonna stop him.
read carefully. margarito is going to lose to paul williams when and if they fight, now that's a guarantee. when that happens, williams' name will be on the list to fight floyd if he doesn't retire, believe me. margarito's name will fade away from the list. soon you will hear floyd vs paul if floyd stays in the sport.
You should never make a guarantee of Williams beating Margarito. Williams has a poor defense and keeps his hands down too low. Every opponent he fought is able to land their best shots. He says you have to take a few to land a few, well Margarito is not the kind of fighter you let land a few.
He is going to fight Williams and he goes to hurt Williams. And If Margarito is as you say he is, then go and talk to Floyd about this, give him some confidence to face Margarito.
Obsessed with Margarito why you say this?
The haters made a Margarito fan. I just thought he was a good fighter, never really studied his fights. Till the haters started opening their mouths. Then i was forced to few his fights and guess what, if Mayweather grows balls and fights Margarito, Margarito wins.
Casual fans, as in watch boxing for the big fights and not follow the sport, its understandable that they don't know who he is.
All i have been asking is if Mayweather claims to be the best then prove it. Prove it by fighting Margarito, nobody wanted to fight him for many years now. Its not till he started offereing money around that name opponets wanted to face him. And most of those big names are from the higher weight class, so that their tells you that the welterweights want nothing to do with Margarito.
At the end, i gurantee you Antonio Margarito will be the last man standing. Take Margarito away from the welterwight division and you basicly got a whole division of newbie welterweights with your old contenders too.
Mayweather wants to call himself the best, then take on the #1 welterweight challenger Antonio Margarito. And don't give any bs, about how Margarito is not known or who has he fought. Cause Mayweather didn't fight any name opponet before he faced Genaro "Chicanito" Hernandez.
And if you dont think a Margarito fight will sell, heres a great idea, have the fight on HBO, Margarito already is taking in the lowest amount of money a challenger has taken when the Champion is gettin such a huge chunk, or at least in recent times.
Plain and simple, if Floyd is so good then why be afraid of fighting Margrito?
And put this fight on HBO, it doesn't have to be PPV. Save me some money. If they can sel Baldomier, they can sell Margarito. Except what is funny, is that they can't say how strong and and rough or chinned Margarito is because they already used that hype with Baldomier, LOL!:owned: , owned is what Hbo did to themselves. Difference is it was BULLSHIT with Baldomier and with Margarito its the facts.read carefully. margarito is going to lose to paul williams when and if they fight, now that's a guarantee. when that happens, williams' name will be on the list to fight floyd if he doesn't retire, believe me. margarito's name will fade away from the list. soon you will hear floyd vs paul if floyd stays in the sport.
come the fuck on, prime Oscar would've KO'd his ass.. Right now, he still has a chance to beat him, Mayweather is overrated.yeah because you know everything right?:ugh: you don't know what would have happened if they fought in oscar's prime. imo, it would have been a great fight but floyd would have either koed oscar late or taken the ud. when oscar was in his prime, he was amazing, but floyd is a better all around boxer and you know it. also, he's a smarter fighter than oscar and i know you know it.
It means Mayweather PPVs are drawing less than top featherweights. And I bet quite a few of those buyers will not be buying another mayweather fight again.
Don't you think you're a little obsessed by Margarito ???
Margarito is a great fighter, full of power, but he's simply too slow for Floyd. I think he should fight Williams...
He is going to fight Williams and he goes to hurt Williams. And If Margarito is as you say he is, then go and talk to Floyd about this, give him some confidence to face Margarito.
Obsessed with Margarito why you say this?
The haters made a Margarito fan. I just thought he was a good fighter, never really studied his fights. Till the haters started opening their mouths. Then i was forced to few his fights and guess what, if Mayweather grows balls and fights Margarito, Margarito wins.
And believe me, Pbf-Mosley and Pbf-De la hoya would make 10x what a Pbf-Margarito would sell. I have a lot of friends that are casual fans, and none of them know who Margarito is, I know it's probably in Mexico.
Casual fans, as in watch boxing for the big fights and not follow the sport, its understandable that they don't know who he is.
but here is my point : that's true, Margarito will sell a lot of PPv in Mexico, because Mexican are proud and they support their people. BUT, in the rest of the world, nobody will care about this fight. At the opposite, all my friends know De la hoya and Mayweather, even my father. And this is the same thing ALL over the world...
All i have been asking is if Mayweather claims to be the best then prove it. Prove it by fighting Margarito, nobody wanted to fight him for many years now. Its not till he started offereing money around that name opponets wanted to face him. And most of those big names are from the higher weight class, so that their tells you that the welterweights want nothing to do with Margarito.
At the end, i gurantee you Antonio Margarito will be the last man standing. Take Margarito away from the welterwight division and you basicly got a whole division of newbie welterweights with your old contenders too.
Mayweather wants to call himself the best, then take on the #1 welterweight challenger Antonio Margarito. And don't give any bs, about how Margarito is not known or who has he fought. Cause Mayweather didn't fight any name opponet before he faced Genaro "Chicanito" Hernandez.
And if you dont think a Margarito fight will sell, heres a great idea, have the fight on HBO, Margarito already is taking in the lowest amount of money a challenger has taken when the Champion is gettin such a huge chunk, or at least in recent times.
Plain and simple, if Floyd is so good then why be afraid of fighting Margrito?
And put this fight on HBO, it doesn't have to be PPV. Save me some money. If they can sel Baldomier, they can sell Margarito. Except what is funny, is that they can't say how strong and and rough or chinned Margarito is because they already used that hype with Baldomier, LOL!:owned: , owned is what Hbo did to themselves. Difference is it was BULLSHIT with Baldomier and with Margarito its the facts.
They only care for the big fights, and they don't go to boxing websites even though they have the internet.
I bet you everybody here knows more about boxing then them. They just want to see action fights. Which is why im surprised my brother bought the Mayweather fight. And i should have been more specific, one brother didn't know who Margarito was, another brother did.
Its like this, if your a boxing fan and say you follow the sport, and don't know who Margarito is by now, then you are a casual boxing fan and i dont' think i'd expect that person to know who Margarito is. But the the casual fan is now hearing about him little by little and knowing who he is because now, the boxing programs are talking about him.
Arum could have had him on his undercards years ago, but he does what King does. Once his meal ticket is gone then he brings in the little known fighter and makes him a star, but always knowing the potential this fighter has.
Don't you think you're a little obsessed by Margarito ???
Margarito is a great fighter, full of power, but he's simply too slow for Floyd. I think he should fight Williams...
And believe me, Pbf-Mosley and Pbf-De la hoya would make 10x what a Pbf-Margarito would sell. I have a lot of friends that are casual fans, and none of them know who Margarito is, I know it's probably in Mexico.
but here is my point : that's true, Margarito will sell a lot of PPv in Mexico, because Mexican are proud and they support their people. BUT, in the rest of the world, nobody will care about this fight. At the opposite, all my friends know De la hoya and Mayweather, even my father. And this is the same thing ALL over the world...
And they haven't heard about Margarito till the last 2 months???? And you are in here continuously stating that anyone who doesn't know who Margarito is, doesn't know anything about boxing???
They only care for the big fights, and they don't go to boxing websites even though they have the internet.
I bet you everybody here knows more about boxing then them. They just want to see action fights. Which is why im surprised my brother bought the Mayweather fight. And i should have been more specific, one brother didn't know who Margarito was, another brother did.
Its like this, if your a boxing fan and say you follow the sport, and don't know who Margarito is by now, then you are a casual boxing fan and i dont' think i'd expect that person to know who Margarito is. But the the casual fan is now hearing about him little by little and knowing who he is because now, the boxing programs are talking about him.
Arum could have had him on his undercards years ago, but he does what King does. Once his meal ticket is gone then he brings in the little known fighter and makes him a star, but always knowing the potential this fighter has.
I guess i should have mentioned that all my brothers are into boxing, but im the hardcore boxing fan.
And Tyson, shit, one of my brothers is a hardcore Tyson fan, he even bought the last Tyson ppv, did you? And my brother bought the Mayweather fight, did you? Im positve he's going to order the Morales fight, he's ordered both times and most all Morales fights. Did you?
My brothers are boxing fans, im just a hardcore boxing fan. And i follow the sport a lot closer then they do. Don't be mad at me you got no family that is interested in boxing.
And not to mention, im from the city of where the Aztec roams. So this city here is big in boxing. Roberto Garcia, Fernando Vargas, Rolando Reyes, Jose Aguiniga, Victor Ortiz, Austoberto Juarez and the list goes on...
And they haven't heard about Margarito till the last 2 months???? And you are in here continuously stating that anyone who doesn't know who Margarito is, doesn't know anything about boxing???
as much as u talk about margarito on here,im sure u shove it down your relatives throat also.thats like me asking my brothers do u know who mike tyson is.(neither of them wach sports really)
I guess i should have mentioned that all my brothers are into boxing, but im the hardcore boxing fan.
And Tyson, shit, one of my brothers is a hardcore Tyson fan, he even bought the last Tyson ppv, did you? And my brother bought the Mayweather fight, did you? Im positve he's going to order the Morales fight, he's ordered both times and most all Morales fights. Did you?
My brothers are boxing fans, im just a hardcore boxing fan. And i follow the sport a lot closer then they do. Don't be mad at me you got no family that is interested in boxing.
And not to mention, im from the city of where the Aztec roams. So this city here is big in boxing. Roberto Garcia, Fernando Vargas, Rolando Reyes, Jose Aguiniga, Victor Ortiz, Austoberto Juarez and the list goes on...
I talked to my brother the other day. I asked him if he got the Mayweather fight, he said he did. Well, i tell him what did he think of the fight. He said, "well, we were drinking and after the 9th round we left."
Then he asked me if i seen the countdown. I said yes. Then he said, "man, the countdown was baddass thats what got me hooked."
I then said, "i could have told you what was going to happen." I then asked him if he knew who Margarito was, he now says, yes. Where as before, say 2 months before when i asked him, he said no.
Mayweather, take the Margarito fight.
as much as u talk about margarito on here,im sure u shove it down your relatives throat also.thats like me asking my brothers do u know who mike tyson is.(neither of them wach sports really)
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