Julio Cesar Chavez

What a stupid fucking poll I voted no just to be arkward bastard because everyone knows this chief is just asking rhetorical questions to raise the status of chavez. Talk about bait or what

lol @ the question. of course he is a hall of famer.

Opinions on him...... HOF or not?? How could he not be?

Wtf. This Thread Should Have Not Even Been Made.

Yes,a great fighter

Opinions on him...... HOF or not?? i thought he's HOF already? :thinking:

Seriously what a stupid poll. Obviously. Chavez is an all-time great.

TeNKuN voted no. He has never posted but he just voted. Just click on the numbers and you will see who voted yes or no. thank you note how the haters did not vote

TeNKuN voted no. He has never posted but he just voted. Just click on the numbers and you will see who voted yes or no.

yeah who the hell voted no? I am curious

Although I am viciously convinced that the Taylor stoppage was unfair. (dont want to argue, that is my opinion, forged after endless debates on this board and in real life, so dont bug me)... I am just as viciously convinced Chavez would have won the rematch after any time it was fought, since Taylor was damaged goods after that vicious beating

Of course JCC is a HOF. Whose that lone member who voted No?

I'd like to know which genius voted no. Not only is he a HOF, he arguably among the top ten fighters of all time.

lol told you someone was going to vote against........

yes IMO (and many others) he is definately a HOF

I was responding to El Jefes comment that Chavez said lets give him a rematch. You have to admit that waiting Five years helped Chavez bet him easily the second time. Also check out how long Chavez waited to fight Randall the third time after arguably losing twice. I am not knocking Chavez, but this tactic is pretty suspicious to me. He waited till they were washed up in the game before giving them a chance in a rematch. Yea, but my point was that the quality of Chavez's victory was really all that matters for me. Thats wat made him a great fighter. Not how long he waited to give Taylor a rematch. The only reason the rematch was so significant was because Taylor fought an amazing fight, yet Chazev still knocked him out.

Hell yeah he should get in the Hall of Fame.

Of course no doubt, as far as him as a person I would say the negatives were during the down slope of his career. And it has happened to many fighters it seems to me. In ascension to his status he was very humble, honest etc.... after the early 1990s it was all downhill from there.... he became an alcoholic, he said idiotic things, one in particular really hurt me as a fan of his. As a person. I will say he has restored himself in my eyes though, through his actions of helping other fighters achieve the heights. He has stopped drinking etc. And what really got to me was, after the Morales vs Pac II fight, Morales was in a WBC convention where he was being honored for his actions in the ring (I forgot what) and Chavez said, Viva Morales the best Mexican fighter ever. Or something like that.

holy crap its a sweep

Blame Duva for the rematch not happening sooner, and blame Duva as well for a rematch between Whitiker and Chavez happening. As for the Randell thing, King wanted Randell to bring another title to the table, so he gives him a title shot at Juan Coggi and if you remember this trillogy, then you remember it is the same scenerio with the Norris inccident. In other words this fight with Coggi tied up Randell for 2 years, -looked it up at boxrec- so finally Randell wins the title and talks of a rematch with Chavez beging, then what happens, he loses to Khali Rahilu, so no rematch takes place anytime soon. King figured Randell would keep the title for a long while he was wrong, and King also didn't expect Coggi to play hurt in his fights with Randell. It's not Chavez fault King wanted Randell to get even more fame then what he already got when he defeated Chavez. King was thinking BIG ppv numbers for their 3rd meeting by building up Franki Randell and getting him a title. It didnt workk out that way, Randell lost his title. And Chavez went on with his career. You made good points. I still can't understand Duva not wanting a rematch right away. Although with the amount of punishment Taylor took in the Chavez fight he might have been ruined for good against the top guys. The Randall scenario makes sense, that does seem to be what Don King was doing with Randall. I am a biased Randall fan though, having spared with him once after the Rahilou fight. He was a great guy and I still believe he won the 2nd Chavez fight although I was pulling for Chavez at the time not having met Frankie. Chavez took the easy way out ,complaining with the cut in that fight and I lost alot of respect for him after that. Good post.