You kids are fucking brain-dead. I was in shock today when I read a post by some idiot who said-and I quote, “ODLH is not Mexican, and he never will be”. I couldn’t believe it at first, but after I finished clearing my eyes, I realized that that cock-sucker was actually being serious.
Y’all don’t know the difference between race, nationality, and ethnicity so I’m a brake it down for ya; make it sound real simple for ya. (By the way, it is kind of sad that/if you don’t know this already)
1) Oscar IS Mexican. What the fuck else would he be you dumb fuck. American is NOT a race.
2) I repeat, being born in a different country from your parents doesn't mean that transform into another race, dickhead.
3) Mexican is NOT a race. It is an ethnic group. Its part of the Latino race, you moron.
4) Oscar is a United States citizen; that doesn't mean he is white and not Mexican because he wasn't born in Mexico.
5) Just to give you an example; Selma Hayek is NOT Mexican. She was born in Mexico, but she is NOT Mexican. Her father is Spanish (Spain) and her mother is Lebanese. Therefore she is half Spanish, Lebanese. She is a Mexican citizen. That is her nationality, not race.
People like David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez, and Tito Trinidad are of the Latino race. Not Black, not Puerto-Rican, not Dominican. Their heritage is African. They were born in their respected countries (PR, DR) but it doesn’t mean that their race is Puerto Rican, Dominican, or Even African (black). They are Afro-Latinos.
Believe me when I say this, there are TONS more white/fair-skinned Puerto-Ricans and Dominicans then there are Black. The Black ones are usually the poorest, so they come to the United States in droves looking for a better life and more opportunity. That is the main reason you see a lot of Afro-Latinos in the United States.
The Latino race is very rich and colorful, and the mainstream has A LOT to learn about us. Just because you see a lot of Afro-Ricans doesn’t mean that every Puerto-Rican has black in them. There are more Afro-Mexicans in Mexico alone then there are Afro-Ricans period. It’s not even close.
Class dismissed.
That's actually what I've always believed, as far as nationailty is concerned, you are where you were born. It doesn't change your so-called "race", but it should determine your nationality. Would you agree?
Yes, i aggree.
So you saying im Mexican and not American? You saying i ain't American? How dare you!
Margarito was born in America but raised in Mexico. Their for he is American. El compa es Chicano.
Being born in America makes you an American right? Yes. :owned:
That's actually what I've always believed, as far as nationailty is concerned, you are where you were born. It doesn't change your so-called "race", but it should determine your nationality. Would you agree?
no enless if he has a amercain passport.
So you saying im Mexican and not American? You saying i ain't American? How dare you!
Margarito was born in America but raised in Mexico. Their for he is American. El compa es Chicano.
Being born in America makes you an American right? Yes. :owned:
Why the switch and bait? LOL! :cop:
So boxrec says Margarito was born in Torrence, Ca not San Deigo as i first thought. Either way that makes him American right?:owned:
no enless if he has a amercain passport.
:lol1: http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=11677
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Why the switch and bait? LOL! :cop:
So boxrec says Margarito was born in Torrence, Ca not San Deigo as i first thought. Either way that makes him American right?:owned:
Lol! Dude Margarito is Mexican, he can't even speak English, I don't hate Margarito, I just think he gets way overrated by his fans!
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Don't contradict yourself. Many reporters have validated that Margarito was born in American, San Diego - California. So he is American. But doesn't speak english cause he was raised in Mexico. So he is American. :owned:
Golden Girl is an American you dumb fuck!
Check his nationality at boxrec,
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=008253
Once you're born in the USA you are considered an American, any of you fuckers that are born in USA and don't consider yourself an American then get your ass out of America.
It pissese me off when I see some fucking loser that was born in America but he considers himslef Mexican or some other shit!
Simple answer, GET THE FUCK OUT!
Margarito is American too, so stop the hateing on him. :boxing:
the good old age discussion of race........well to be more accurate you have to call it "cultural background" as opposed to race becasue that was disproved with the discovery of the human genome project in 2000.....race doesn't exist only cultural background. look it up for yourself.
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I think the myth of race was mentioned earlier by Kid Achilles, and hopefully earlier by someone else that maybe I missed, but people have chosen to ignore it and discuss race anyway. It's kind of sad that some people want to believe that there are different races.
You kids are fucking brain-dead. I was in shock today when I read a post by some idiot who said-and I quote, “ODLH is not Mexican, and he never will be”. I couldn’t believe it at first, but after I finished clearing my eyes, I realized that that cock-sucker was actually being serious.
Y’all don’t know the difference between race, nationality, and ethnicity so I’m a brake it down for ya; make it sound real simple for ya. (By the way, it is kind of sad that/if you don’t know this already)
1) Oscar IS Mexican. What the fuck else would he be you dumb fuck. American is NOT a race.
2) I repeat, being born in a different country from your parents doesn't mean that transform into another race, dickhead.
3) Mexican is NOT a race. It is an ethnic group. Its part of the Latino race, you moron.
4) Oscar is a United States citizen; that doesn't mean he is white and not Mexican because he wasn't born in Mexico.
5) Just to give you an example; Selma Hayek is NOT Mexican. She was born in Mexico, but she is NOT Mexican. Her father is Spanish (Spain) and her mother is Lebanese. Therefore she is half Spanish, Lebanese. She is a Mexican citizen. That is her nationality, not race.
People like David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez, and Tito Trinidad are of the Latino race. Not Black, not Puerto-Rican, not Dominican. Their heritage is African. They were born in their respected countries (PR, DR) but it doesn’t mean that their race is Puerto Rican, Dominican, or Even African (black). They are Afro-Latinos.
Believe me when I say this, there are TONS more white/fair-skinned Puerto-Ricans and Dominicans then there are Black. The Black ones are usually the poorest, so they come to the United States in droves looking for a better life and more opportunity. That is the main reason you see a lot of Afro-Latinos in the United States.
The Latino race is very rich and colorful, and the mainstream has A LOT to learn about us. Just because you see a lot of Afro-Ricans doesn’t mean that every Puerto-Rican has black in them. There are more Afro-Mexicans in Mexico alone then there are Afro-Ricans period. It’s not even close.
Class dismissed.
everybody know that
oscar is a white man
yeah yeah snarfy snarf
You are insane..more afromexicans that afro ricans...you must be insane...puerto ricans and cubans always say that but it's not true...I'll bet you can travel all over mexico and not find 1 black person...the theory goes that there are many in veracruz...which is a lie..the only blacks there came from puerto rico and cuba..that is it and the population is almost nonexistent...anyways don't you think with blacks ability to play sports..you would have seen a black mexican at some point..either in baseball,boxing soccer ,running etc....but you don't see them why?...if you look at puerto rico and cubans every sport they have is all blacks.....Mexico is a racist society against skin color and blacks wouldn't last there....in puerto rico and cuba blacks are 85% of the population .. puerto ricans and cubans pretend they are white...WHICH IS FUNNY!!!!!!....by the way selma hayeks mother is mexican ...like cubans,puerto ricans and phillipinos..some mexicans like to pretend they are full white too....it's the latin cultures..skin color means everything .....
Like u said that some mexicans pretend to be fully white, it is also some cubans, puerto ricans, and filipinos, not all.
I have seen a few asians, latinos, and blacks who want to be white. But it is a small fraction. I have even chatted with people in the internet who lives in Hawaii. Because they think live in Hawaii, the think their native Hawaiians. U ask them what they are, they response with i am black, white, asian, latino(choose one) then said half hawaiian cuz they lived there. Somehow it is true they are Hawaiians, cuz they live in Hawaii. But that's not the problem. Their problem is that they think their Hawaiians, as in Polynesians.
Sorry to get out of the topic.
I think in Mexician socity there is three divisions of the people.
There is the rich, poor and the third one in middle class but they are vitrually non-existing.
For example North of Mexicio hate the people of the south. because they are different from each other.
have anyone seen those Mexician soap opera. Oscar Dela Hayo look like those rich people in the soap Opera who where poor you could see some mexican soap opera to know mexician part socitey, any way there is most of those guy in soap opera are oscar dela hayo looking like.
You are insane..more afromexicans that afro ricans...you must be insane...puerto ricans and cubans always say that but it's not true...I'll bet you can travel all over mexico and not find 1 black person...the theory goes that there are many in veracruz...which is a lie..the only blacks there came from puerto rico and cuba..that is it and the population is almost nonexistent...anyways don't you think with blacks ability to play sports..you would have seen a black mexican at some point..either in baseball,boxing soccer ,running etc....but you don't see them why?...if you look at puerto rico and cubans every sport they have is all blacks.....Mexico is a racist society against skin color and blacks wouldn't last there....in puerto rico and cuba blacks are 85% of the population .. puerto ricans and cubans pretend they are white...WHICH IS FUNNY!!!!!!....by the way selma hayeks mother is mexican ...like cubans,puerto ricans and phillipinos..some mexicans like to pretend they are full white too....it's the latin cultures..skin color means everything .....
That fool don't know what the fuck he's talking about, i didn't even read that part of his post. Every country has racisim.
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If you haven't learned anything else about me on these forums, you should learn that I firmly believe that religion as practiced, not necessarily as written, is the true root of all evil. Far fewer people have died in the name of money.
Your little guy on the right reminds me of the Homie Clown I have on my dash.
I've been fascinated with early american cultures since childhood and my mind contains all these weird and esoteric things I have read over the past 35 years about them.
You're right about knowing your heritage and the evolution of your culture being important things. It still doesn't change your race, though;)
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NO!
Whos to say he was right?
You watch the discovery channel, i've also read the books. The spaniards describe the place were they saw the sacrafices take place, historians have said, "the place cortez describes to been at to see the sacrafices, doesn't give you a view at all of what is happening even if he had bennaculers." or somthing similar.
I was being sarcastic...
But he was torturing them in order to help them see The One True God, so it was a good thing, right?
NO!
Whos to say he was right?
You watch the discovery channel, i've also read the books. The spaniards describe the place were they saw the sacrafices take place, historians have said, "the place cortez describes to been at to see the sacrafices, doesn't give you a view at all of what is happening even if he had bennaculers." or somthing similar.