http://www.fightfan.com/interviews/0906-Goossen.htm
"FF: Dan we know Williams really wanted that crack at Antonio Margarito on Dec. 2nd, can you speak about that situation and why it didn’t materialize?
DG: Well it’s the mandatory fight for Margarito for his WBO title. Margarito had the choice to either fight Paul Williams or ask for a voluntary defense which he ended up doing. We know that if he’d chosen to fight Paul Williams he’d have had that higher profile opponent he was supposedly looking for.
It’s beyond me that a fighter sits there and accuses someone else of ducking him when he’s got his mandatory sitting right there staring him in the face with a man who’s been on HBO in his last two fights. If he were to beat Paul Williams it would put Antonio Margarito in a position to get bigger fights. But as long as he keeps doing what he’s doing in fighting these unknowns –like he’s doing on Dec. 2nd- it doesn’t move him forward.
FF: We’ve done several interviews with Paul Williams where he’s been calling for Margarito, so I’ve been listening to how that whole situation unfolded and the only thing I heard them say on the topic was that Williams priced himself out of being an option for Margarito’s December 2nd date. Is there any truth to that whatsoever?
DG: No. We weren’t even able to discuss it with Top Rank. They knew of our desire to fight Antonio Margarito on December 2nd and our calls were never returned.
FF: I know you just touched on this, but is it fair for Margarito to call himself the most avoided man in boxing when he’s overlooking Paul Williams like this?
DG: As I just mentioned Ace, if you’re going to call yourself the most avoided man in the business you’d better make sure you’re not avoiding anyone. There’s a difference if it’s some up and comer trying to crack the top ten calling you out the same way Margarito isn’t really deserving of calling out the top fighter himself, but Paul Williams is ranked number one and is the mandatory challenger for a long over due defense. Williams would give Margarito the opportunity to showcase his talent.
When you call yourself the most avoided man in boxing and then do everything you can –for whatever reason- to avoid your mandatory challenge, you really hurt your claim of being an avoided fighter."
What is it with you and some other posters, that always make it a race issue?
When a Floyd fan talks about Floyd and were argueing do i say somthing dumb like, "its always the Black fans that stand up for the obiouvious ducking"
Its not a Mexican thing, you root for your fighters, i root for mine. Get race out of your head.
As for the Williams issue i would like Williams to offer Margarito millions to fight him this december ,then if Margarito doesn't break off that Clottey deal i'll say he's ducking Williams.
Williams is a step back for Margarito but he'll have to beat him just like he beat Cintron.
Im white as it comes and mayweather and williams are a different class then margo... you r talking up a guy that got beat by a few guys that r longer in the sport... dream on... I don't wanna see another reply from you regarding margo til he beats anyone worth a damn
First of all, it wouldn't matter if paul was fighting your mom. If Margowho was the man you claim he is, then he would of jumped to fight paul... The fight with paul is going to happen unless your boy drops his belt, so why duck him now?? (if he is smart he will bow down)....
I don't ever comment on here, but Im tired of hearing your mouth about margowho... You do know a lot when it comes to this sport, but you love him so much that you fail to realize the truth... Margo is a great fighter, im not doubting that and one of the best in his class.. Honestly though, mayweather would gain nothing by beating his ass.... no one cares who margo is or would pay to see PBF beat his ass... he has never beat anyone worth a damn and if i were him, i would not find williams either because he would lose everything... Your boy is good, but he is not elite and you will see this real soon.... christmas will taste sour early this winter for you my man
Marg just got exposed...he talked all that crap aboy Pretty Boy and look at him now...running from one of the most deadly WW in the game...Thats of..when Paul get his chance, he will definitely make that champion pay for all the times he was avoided....
I can understand the logic that margarito is using, but in actuality it's not even the same scenario. williams is Margarito mandatory, he is the #1 challenger. margarito was never Floyd's mandatory. Floyd never said he was the most feared in boxing and fought a #5 ranked challenger.
Your actually strengthening the argument by saying that because this sitation is actually worse. lol. There is just real defense for this, however, its not a big deal to me because i dont care too much for margarito or williams.
But my "logic" i meant how he is saying "the fight will be bigger down the line" which Ferocity is attempting to use in favor of Margarito as far as building names up. You just cant run to that when Floyd was saying THE EXACT SAME THING and nobody wanted to hear it. Regardless, Margarito didint even say that, and even if he did, it wouldnt matter, unlike floyd he goes through a promoter, Floyd just does as he pleases and calls his own shots for the most part.
LOL!
Im glad people are building up Williams, the more people build him up the more hate Margarito is going to get for beating Williams up.
When Margarito taps that chin, Williams legs are going to turn to jello, and through out the fight Williams will do his best impression of john ruiz and thats before he even gets hurt. Then after Williams ko lose to Margarito, i predict Williams chin becomes even more fragile or at least at Cintron level.
Thanks thats all I was waiting for. Thread just wasnt fun with out some good ol Ferocity.
This is clearly a ducking issue. Williams has the buzz to warrant interest for a fight with Margarito. Margarito knows a loss to Williams kills any hopes of him fighting Floyd, and hurts his pockets something awful.
Williams and his team want the fight. HBO wants it. Fans want the fight. Whats the hold up?:boxing:
This is what people are/were saying about Margarito Mayweather and you didint want to hear it. You just use evidence and reasoning in your own favor and never when the logic universally applies.
I can understand the logic that margarito is using, but in actuality it's not even the same scenario. williams is Margarito mandatory, he is the #1 challenger. margarito was never Floyd's mandatory. Floyd never said he was the most feared in boxing and fought a #5 ranked challenger.
You're not very swift are you?
There was zero discussion about a purse, because Top Rank wouldn't even talk to Goossen.
The story Arum made up about Williams outpricing himself was a lie. :nonono:
Ive posted this in about 20 threads but the reason why it was never discussed is due to the fact that Margarito is fighting on Showtime, Paul Williams who is also supported by Al Haymon are on HBO, Arum could potentially be outbid in a pursebid easily, therefore its impossible to make the accusation of "outpricing". Its just not logical by whats been stated.
Not to mention, Williams doesnt do his own negotiating, so how is that even possible? Williams seemed pretty reasonable in his interview, so i doubt he would even try to outprice himself for a piece of shit belt against a above average fighter with virtually no name.
I think because Williams does have a good following so early in his career and great tv expose and with margarito fighting in december, when they do fight i think it will be a big fight.
This is what people are/were saying about Margarito Mayweather and you didint want to hear it. You just use evidence and reasoning in your own favor and never when the logic universally applies.
Again with that race card crap, wtf is wrong with you?
I see you have Augustus in your sig, its cause hes Black that you're all up in his nuts, not even a top contender.
And you belive what Gossen says. Williams will get his shot, just make sure to tell Williams not to out bid himself when the time comes for negotiations.
So you believe everything that arum said? the same arum that said mayweather is the most gifted fighter and the best in the world but when arum got mad at mayweather he said cotto will destroy mayweather but when arum is cool with mayweather he said cotto is not ready for mayweather. And you going to believe arum? you can't be that dumb. No offense.
You dumbshits act like Margarito is getting an 8 million doller offer from Williams. When Margarito fights Williams and beats him, I'm guessing Margarito is gonna be a god to you guys.
You idiot, williams is a god damn mandatory challenger. Why not fight williams? and then if margarito can beat williams he can get the mandatory out of the way and look for a mosley, mayweather or shocking maybe delahoya fights. But nooooooooooooo margarito cowardly didn't want to fight his mandatory that is calling him out he rather fight a number 5 wbo contender. Most fear man lol give me a break.
This isn't any different from all the people that were hyping up Cintron, and where are they now?
Yea margarito is brave by fighting a long layoff with two surgeries in cintron lol yea margarito is brave. Lol give me a damn break.
Just remember to tell Williams to be resonable when asking for a paycheck. He ain't on Mayweathers level.
You're not very swift are you?
There was zero discussion about a purse, because Top Rank wouldn't even talk to Goossen.
The story Arum made up about Williams outpricing himself was a lie. :nonono:
If it's racist to imply you blindly stick up for the guy's hypocritical actions because he's a Mexican fighter, than so be it.
I like Margarito as a fighter, but his actions here are clear.
Goosen would have no reason to lie, and then continiously bring it up.
Arum's the one who made one statement and then didn't say another peep.
Again: there's nothing you can say to justify his actions. Like him all you want, he just looked like a hypocrite ducking Paul Williams.
Just remember to tell Williams to be resonable when asking for a paycheck. He ain't on Mayweathers level.
Again with that race card crap, wtf is wrong with you?
I see you have Augustus in your sig, its cause hes Black that you're all up in his nuts, not even a top contender.
And you belive what Gossen says. Williams will get his shot, just make sure to tell Williams not to out bid himself when the time comes for negotiations.
If it's racist to imply you blindly stick up for the guy's hypocritical actions because he's a Mexican fighter, than so be it.
I like Margarito as a fighter, but his actions here are clear.
Goosen would have no reason to lie, and then continiously bring it up.
Arum's the one who made one statement and then didn't say another peep.
Again: there's nothing you can say to justify his actions. Like him all you want, he just looked like a hypocrite ducking Paul Williams.
Arum's a notorious liar.
Goosen stated clearly yesterday:
Goosen has been going on and on about this for weeks on every boxing site that will listen. Arum and Margarito have commented on it once that I'm aware of, and it was BS.
You believe arum because you're up Margarito's ass because he's a Mexican fighter. It's blind nuthugging.
The guy didn't want anything to do with Williams despite him making much more sense as an opponent than Clottey.
This couldn't be anymore clear. Margarito accused Mayweather of ducking him, and turned right around and ducked Paul Williams.
Again with that race card crap, wtf is wrong with you?
I see you have Augustus in your sig, its cause hes Black that you're all up in his nuts, not even a top contender.
And you belive what Gossen says. Williams will get his shot, just make sure to tell Williams not to out bid himself when the time comes for negotiations.
Margorito ducked his ass. Theres nothing that can be said to defend him. He ducked Williams. point blank period. Everytime somebody tries to defend him they sound fuckin stupid. Give it up. HE DUCKED HIM!!!!
What fighters do i have in my sig?
Arum said a deal couldn't be made, Williams wants to get paid for the ass kicking thats waiting for him. Margarito fighting Williams is a step back, not a step forward.
Arum's a notorious liar.
Goosen stated clearly yesterday:
I heard them say on the topic was that Williams priced himself out of being an option for Margarito’s December 2nd date. Is there any truth to that whatsoever?
DG: No. We weren’t even able to discuss it with Top Rank. They knew of our desire to fight Antonio Margarito on December 2nd and our calls were never returned.
Goosen has been going on and on about this for weeks on every boxing site that will listen. Arum and Margarito have commented on it once that I'm aware of, and it was BS.
You believe arum because you're up Margarito's ass because he's a Mexican fighter. It's blind nuthugging.
The guy didn't want anything to do with Williams despite him making much more sense as an opponent than Clottey.
This couldn't be anymore clear. Margarito accused Mayweather of ducking him, and turned right around and ducked Paul Williams.
Because the only time I see someone desperatly defending Margarito for not fighting Williams, it's someone with a sig full of Mexican fighters.
You and a select few others have gone ape shit over Floyd not fighting Tony, and then you put blinders on when Margarito turns around and did it just as bad if not worse.
Nothing you can say is going to change what happned.
Williams was an option before the Clottey fight was signed.
Williams was his mandatory, and was a fighter with some acclaim and exposure behind him. Everything that Tony needed for his next fight.
But instead, he turned down the #1 guy to face a relative unknown in the #5 guy.
Give it up. He avoided Williams. Period.
What fighters do i have in my sig?
Arum said a deal couldn't be made, Williams wants to get paid for the ass kicking thats waiting for him. Margarito fighting Williams is a step back, not a step forward.