examining julio chavez's career: he was a champion fighting guys with losing records.

Everything i said is true! You need to get over yourself is what you got to do. :bottle: What the hell are you talking about?

DINO, which Duran fights have you see in their entirety? ....which Chavez fights have you seen in their entirety? DINO where you at, stop watching them cartoons and answer, which Duran and Chavez fights have you seen in their entirty?

DINO, which Duran fights have you see in their entirety? ....which Chavez fights have you seen in their entirety?

he was better at welterweight..so your trying to tell me..the version of the duran that struggled with RAY BUCHANON..was better then the roberto duran that beat a green RAY LEONARD? ..just think about it The fighter that was Duran at lightweight was every bit as good as welterweight. But Duran had more power at lightweight. Probably fought better too since he was lighter but i haven't seen many of his fights at lightweight which ended quickly most of the time. Are you saying Durans only fight at lightweight was his fight with Ken Buchanan?

He once said that Duran was nothing special at lightweight. And wasn't in his prime untill he hit welterweight. :eek: He talks shit but doesn't do his homework. he was better at welterweight..so your trying to tell me..the version of the duran that struggled with RAY BUCHANON..was better then the roberto duran that beat a green RAY LEONARD? ..just think about it

I can't believe what I'm reading here. Using his fights with KT,DLH and Whitiker as reasons he isn't great? That is absolutely crazy. Chavez was in higher weight classes than his prime or old and grey. When he fought KT and DLH, he wasn't half the fighter he once was. Losing a decision to Whitiker at any stage of a career is nothing to be ashamed of. You guys need to pull out the old tapes of his domination at his natural weight classes. (130-135)His body attack was devestating. His chin was granite. Did he fight bums? Of course he did, but if you call JCC anything but great, you are misinformed or haven't watched anything but the above mentioned bouts.

this post tells me all i need to know about the poster.....JCC is an all time great no matter the losses he suffered after his prime....many top fighters now praise him and give him his due too bad your tunnel vision doesn't let you see what a legend is all about He once said that Duran was nothing special at lightweight. And wasn't in his prime untill he hit welterweight. :eek: He talks shit but doesn't do his homework.

chavez was a B- fighter even at his best..he didnt start fighting real fighters until he moved to 140..lets be real here..juan laporte and the laporte fight was a rip off and camacho are the only discent fighters he beat..greg haugen and roger mayweather werent good sorry You must be Puerto Rican. Now i know who this is, this is IWATCHBOXING. So you give Chavez credit for his win over Camacho but not over Laporte or other fighters, ok. Tell me, what other World Champion -besides Chavez- takes a tune-up fight at a higher weight class and is against a number 9 IBF contender, what other Champion has done this? You mad about the Taylor fight or the Whitiker fight? Chavez tried to make both fights, i got that shit documented. Im not sure what happened with the Taylor fight, but Whitiker said he'd only fight Chavez again if Chavez first admited he lost :rolleyes: Whitiker didn't want another fight with Chavez and thats the truth and seeing how Taylor and Whitiker had the same managers, neither did Taylor want the rematch right away.

this post tells me all i need to know about the poster.....JCC is an all time great no matter the losses he suffered after his prime....many top fighters now praise him and give him his due too bad your tunnel vision doesn't let you see what a legend is all about

chavez was a B- fighter even at his best..he didnt start fighting real fighters until he moved to 140..lets be real here..juan laporte and the laporte fight was a rip off and camacho are the only discent fighters he beat..greg haugen and roger mayweather werent good sorry chavez was no better then yory boy campas

Who is ROMERO SANDOVAL? click on link, then go look up his ring record at boxrec www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpIfJHDIzQg i know boxrec works hard on making legite claims on peoples record and when they can't find info on a fighter they usally just leave it as an 0-0, record. So im not knocking the boxrec files, just telling some Chavez HATERS that some info there has yet to be registered or complete.

Do you know how many fighters this category falls under? Its no uncommon, I cant stand Tarver because he beat roy jones, i hate buster douglas for life because he beat Tyson. I have never like Marco Barrera because he got the best of Morales etc etc. People dont like to see their guy lose, you cant fault people for that. Dont bring "mexicans" into the equation, there are so many mexican fighters its impossible to hate them all. Being mexican has little to do with it, people hate on former champions all the time, like Marciano/Jones Jr/Tyson etc. Get over yourself with that one. Everything i said is true! You need to get over yourself is what you got to do. :bottle:

You know now that i think about it even Lennox Lewis has a hate thread on the first page, basically everybody hates every boxer for one reason or another. Anyone can be overrated at anytime.

People hate on Chavez because he beat one of their fighters, . Do you know how many fighters this category falls under? Its no uncommon, I cant stand Tarver because he beat roy jones, i hate buster douglas for life because he beat Tyson. I have never like Marco Barrera because he got the best of Morales etc etc. People dont like to see their guy lose, you cant fault people for that. Dont bring "mexicans" into the equation, there are so many mexican fighters its impossible to hate them all. Being mexican has little to do with it, people hate on former champions all the time, like Marciano/Jones Jr/Tyson etc. Get over yourself with that one.

juan laporte, edwin rosario, jose luis ramirez, meldrick taylor, hector camacho, and frankie randall. these are some damn good fighers and you know what they have in common? chavez beat all of them.

Man all you guys are either racists against Mexicans or just plain haters because Chavez IS and IS CONSIDERED a LEGEND. He had one of the best winning undefeated streaks in boxing history. So what if he fought a bunch of no names, doesn't mean that they aren't good. Remember, even Floyd Gayweather was a no name at 6-0, but turned out to be 36-0 (by running). So even if Chavez fought a no name, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY AREN'T GOOD! Now anybody more who talks shit about Chavez is either a racists to Mexicans, a Meldrick Taylor fan, or just a plain hater who has nothing more to do than talk a bunch of bogus shit about one of the best fighters in history, because if you are a true Mexican than you know Chavez is one of the best fighters ever in history. NOW WHAT BITCHES???!!!!!! People hate on Chavez because he beat one of their fighters, or because he brings so much pride to the Mexicans or what you just mentioned. Plain and simple Chavez was a great fighter, even ESPN had to admit this.

Man all you guys are either racists against Mexicans or just plain haters because Chavez IS and IS CONSIDERED a LEGEND. He had one of the best winning undefeated streaks in boxing history. So what if he fought a bunch of no names, doesn't mean that they aren't good. Remember, even Floyd Gayweather was a no name at 6-0, but turned out to be 36-0 (by running). So even if Chavez fought a no name, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY AREN'T GOOD! Now anybody more who talks shit about Chavez is either a racists to Mexicans, a Meldrick Taylor fan, or just a plain hater who has nothing more to do than talk a bunch of bogus shit about one of the best fighters in history, because if you are a true Mexican than you know Chavez is one of the best fighters ever in history. NOW WHAT BITCHES???!!!!!!

Chavez fought some of the best cab drivers in the history of boxing. His first 40 or 50 fights was with A Class cabby drivers. LMAO!!!!!!!!

lets all exam the overrated julio "taxi cab driver beater" chavez he's one of the ONLY FIGHTERS in history to fight guys with losing records, a guy who never had a fight as a pro, or a guy who has more loses then wins as a champion! lets exam this c+ b- fighter (if gatti fought his opposition he would probably have the same record other then hector camacho) he fought Ramon Aramburu who was 0-0 as a champ, Roberto Collins Lindo 1-12,Akwei Addo 5-3,Ignacio Pedromo 1-0,Dwight Pratchett 12-6? what kind of resume is this for a SO CALLED all time great? lets exam the LIVE fighters he faught and what happen..meldrick taylor you can argue that chavez lost every round until the last knockout meldrick taylor wasnt a smart fighter and he didnt have power if he was smart he would have just been on his bike that last round if he had power he would have dropped chavez with all those punches de la hoya best fighter chavez faught..chavez was early 30s when he fought de la hoya..dont give me that "well past prime" shit that you tards like to throw around on this forum..holyfield is well past his prime..hearns is well past his prime..chavez just moved up in weight and faced a real fighter and not "rocky lockridge"..de la hoya brutally rapped chavez..and the chavez who faught mayorga would brutally rape the chavez that fought de la hoya back then! tszyu..brutally raped chavez eventhough ill ignore that go because he was now finally past his prime frankie randall..quick fighter B+ fighter, no floyd mayweather..chavez was so frustarted that he had to result to throwing low blows serveral times pernell whitaker..in that fight chavez didnt win a round after the 5th An opinion expressed in the manner of a 10 year old cannot be taken seriously.

Bunch of no knowledge jackasses either that or haters. Go look at any fighter who has 100+ fighst and your gonna find more bums than good fighters. Your not going to have 80 megafights. He wasn't fighting these guys for glory he was fighting to stay busy and keep sharp most of those fights weren't even on TV. Lots of good tough guys on his record like Juan La Porte, Rodger Mayweather, Rueben Castillo, Jose Luis Ramirez, Greg Haugen. Big time fights with Rosario and Taylor. So what he lost to Whitiker. Last I check Pete was an all time great and one of the two greatest defensive fighters whoever lived. and are people really trying to talk about the Tszyu and DLH fights?