if floyd was still with arum we wouldn't hear half of this bullshit but now that floyd left that crook (because he wanted to fight oscar) floyd's scared and ducking an unproven fighter and all of you haters fell right into arums trap, congradulations you are nothing more than sheep.
Cotto is not fighting Floyd untill He fights Williams,,,,
Because Floyd is not fighting both of them.... He is just going to fight the winner....
and Plus both Floyd and Williams are Managed by Al Hamond....
So you know Al Hamond is going to try to get williams THE cotto fight to build his fighter up even More....
So Cotto should just man up and fight williams so he can fight Floyd IF HE WINS against williams
Some of you guys say some of the dumbest shit. Jesus:nonono: PATHETIC.
Some of you guys just hate and dont even realize it. BDevils makes a good, valid point about the old hag Arum. He is only bringing Floyd's name down because he got tired of Arum's leaching ass. Before Floyd left Arum, Arum was claiming Floyd was the next best thing. Now that Floyd has left, Floyd is ducking such and such fighter. That is big a pile of bullshit and you haters buy into this shit. Dont act dumb folks. You know damn well Arum use to praise Floyd while he was under him.
When Floyd fights Cotto and beats him. I want to see what you Hater will say he is ducking next.
Some of you posters are stuck on some bullshit.
Marg had already fought on HBO a few times before this offer.
Margarito headlined a PPV with SHANE MOSELY on the UNDERCARD on ESPN..
BEFORE THIS ARTICLE AND OFFER WAS MADE..
and on that PPV he KTFO kERmit Cintron...
SO PLENTY OF FANS outside of Tijauna new Margarito.:cop:
you know CRAP about what gets discussed in here, please :tapedshut
Margarito HEADLINED a PPV? If you remember correctly, Kermit Cintron was the main name for that fight. And of the few people that bought that PPV, most of them bought it to see Mosley. What were the numbers for that PPV? I know much more than you do little guy.
I feel the same about you buddy.
Thats odd, since I don't attempt to use wit with you. I always try to use small words and simple concepts so you can understand.
And what would you have said if Floyd had fought Antonio Margarito back in 2005? Back when Margarito was unknown to everyone outside of boxing fans in Tijauna. You would've bitched about how he was ducking Zab Judah and Ricky Hatton.
Tell me the future what are wednesdays super lotto number?
if floyd was still with arum we wouldn't hear half of this bullshit but now that floyd left that crook (because he wanted to fight oscar) floyd's scared and ducking an unproven fighter and all of you haters fell right into arums trap, congradulations you are nothing more than sheep.
How is Cotto unproven? He just defeated Mosleyy..
your a douche.
WRONG.. you did hear this when Bob was his promoter... in fact he offered Floyd 7 mil to fight MARG and Floyd fought Sharmbay for 4 MIL INSTEAD. Floyd had FOUGHT two more TIMES when this article and offer were made while Bob was STILL his promoter.. :cop:
http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim110905.asp
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And what would you have said if Floyd had fought Antonio Margarito back in 2005? Back when Margarito was unknown to everyone outside of boxing fans in Tijauna. You would've bitched about how he was ducking Zab Judah and Ricky Hatton.
if floyd was still with arum we wouldn't hear half of this bullshit but now that floyd left that crook (because he wanted to fight oscar) floyd's scared and ducking an unproven fighter and all of you haters fell right into arums trap, congradulations you are nothing more than sheep.
Shut up you floyd nutthugger, remove yourself from floyds balls, you and parody are pathetic.
my point is you didn't hear any of this talk when floyd was with arum as his #1 guy now that arum won't be getting paid off of floyd anymore he needs to build up his next fighter which is fine that's the business but setup him up with some good fights so he's known by more than just die hard fight fans.
I don't know if the $8M was really there or it was just talk. PBF didn't call his bluff. Now PBF will fight the unexciting Stinks for far less money.
Arum is a PR genius for this. He can now hype Margarito as the dangerous fighter that PBF wouldn't fight for $8M.
Floyd feeds off of fighters who are : coming off a losss. been KTFO in 1 of their last 2 fights....OR are past their prime.
dont tell me im not stating facts......nuthugger
i expect nothing less from an asshole like you who never proves a fucking point respond with nuthugger in every post. keep up the good work loser
but thats the point spinks went up to 154 and WON (against a guy that i would take over marg anyday)something that marg failed to do. this forum and alot of the delusional fans and or floyd haters really brainwashed alot you guys into believing that marg is this big scary guy that noone wants to face and it's just ridiculous.
But like we always say styles make fights. I think Margarito would fare very well against Karmazin. He probably wouldn't do well against Spinks although I think eventually he could KO him. Margarito is a big scary guy, he just doesn't have the pure boxing skills of a Floyd Mayweather. His advantage is his size, power, and punch output. And we aren't talking about Margarito or Spinks at 154, we are discussing Margarito at 147 or Spinks at 154. At 147 Margarito hasn't been beaten in 10 years while Spinks has lost 3 times. You can say competition but 2 of the 3 losses were against guys that Margarito beat (Diaz) or could beat easily (Picirillo).
Oh it was definitely a bad decision don't get me wrong. But a really great fighter (ie. Floyd Mayweather) wouldn't have let the fight be close enough for a rip off to happen. You still haven't addressed the fact that Spinks is uninspired and unimpressive in almost every one of his performances especially his high profile wins.
but thats the point spinks went up to 154 and WON (against a guy that i would take over marg anyday)something that marg failed to do. this forum and alot of the delusional fans and or floyd haters really brainwashed alot you guys into believing that marg is this big scary guy that noone wants to face and it's just ridiculous.
that's fine but seeing as how floyd feeds off of fighters that come straight forward margs style is custom fit for floyd. marg is slow and his punches are wide sure he could hurt floyd if one connected flush but on the other hand he would be getting tattoed with shots left and right. seeing how zab caused some trouble with floyd with his speed i don't know why you would say that marg would be a tougher fight than spinks other than the punching power.
The real problems Judah caused were due to his power which Spinks doesn't have. Also when have you seen a boxer trouble Floyd? Nobody thinks the Zab Judah fight was one of his toughest. Castillo was one of his toughest fights and while I know that Castillo is far more of a technician than Margarito...pressure fighters are more bothersome to Floyd than guys that don't pressure (and nobody say Gatti or Corrales because you have to throw punches to be a pressure fighter). Chavez, Hernandez, and Castillo all pressured Floyd and those were his toughest fights. I still favor him against Margario it just is much more interesting and logical (taking care of biz at 147) than fighting Spinks.
1. spinks had just turned 20 when he lost to diaz and that was still a bullshit decision
obviously a quick trip to boxrec made you see he lost to picirillo in italy in a terrible decision
Oh it was definitely a bad decision don't get me wrong. But a really great fighter (ie. Floyd Mayweather) wouldn't have let the fight be close enough for a rip off to happen. You still haven't addressed the fact that Spinks is uninspired and unimpressive in almost every one of his performances especially his high profile wins.
I would rather see this fight even if the money was the same as for a Spinks fight. Spinks is no threat and has been uninspired and unimpressive in any performance I've ever seen. Sure you can say Margarito is untested but from what I have seen I've been impressed with his KO power and punch volume.
that's fine but seeing as how floyd feeds off of fighters that come straight forward margs style is custom fit for floyd. marg is slow and his punches are wide sure he could hurt floyd if one connected flush but on the other hand he would be getting tattoed with shots left and right. seeing how zab caused some trouble with floyd with his speed i don't know why you would say that marg would be a tougher fight than spinks other than the punching power.
my point is you didn't hear any of this talk when floyd was with arum as his #1 guy now that arum won't be getting paid off of floyd anymore he needs to build up his next fighter which is fine that's the business but setup him up with some good fights so he's known by more than just die hard fight fans.
I don't think anybody is trying to claim that a Mayweather-Margarito fight is a win-win for Margarito while it only offers Floyd $ (people would claim Margarito wasn't ready or wasn't good if Floyd won easily). Nonetheless Arum was trying to get Margarito exposure and what better way than fighting (arguably) the #1 p4p guy in the sport? Plus from Margarito's perspective I'm sure he thinks if Floyd won't fight now for 8 million when he's unproven why will he fight later when he is proven (more even split of $; more confirmed danger).
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