When/how did the majority come to the conclusion that Judah hits harder then Marg..

Both Judah and Margarito are overrated. Judah has only beat spinks..Margarito beat a young untested prospect in Cintron..and 6 heads Lewis who's no big deal. In terms of power Judah's punch has more snap because of the speed, but Margarito's are definitely heavier.

The answer is not a simple one because they are different kinds of fighters that set up their punches differently. Black Jesus covered this all in his post. The short of it... Zab is quicker than Margarito and has a better chance to land a big shot against someone with good defense like Mayweather as opposed to Margarito that throws wider clubbing punches.

mayweather said judah doesnt hit that hard. but judah was alot faster the mayweather

Easy....Judah's technique is better. Judah plants, throws a nice sharp punch. Lets be real, when Judah is double jabbing, circling the ring, and focused is one of the best. Sad thing is we havent seen that Judah in some time. Rememeber Ed Hopskin? When he was on he was a baddass boxer/puncher.

Easy....Judah's technique is better. Judah plants, throws a nice sharp punch. Lets be real, when Judah is double jabbing, circling the ring, and focused is one of the best. Sad thing is we havent seen that Judah in some time.

man judah dont hit harder tahn margarito hell no and if they did fight margarito would win

I think Zab Judah should fight Margarito. it will help if anyone wins. Judah with a career comeback and Margarito with a career boast.

i'll respond to his later since it sounds like you got all technical :rolleyes: I already have a pretty good idea of how youll respond, do me a favor, when you respond to this, use examples of how Margarito performed against champions with legit belts, or that were ranked P4P.

From fighter to fighter and weight class to weight class different fighters setup differently. In this instance I will use Zab/Floyd/Margarito. Zab is a southpaw and a fantastic boxer when he wants to be. He can move, hes slick and he sets up in a deceptive fashion that makes it hard to know when hes gonna throw a vicious counter straight left or whichever punch he feels he can hit you with. His handspeed is outstanding and the way he sets up makes it very difficult to catch onto his rhythm when hes focused. KEYWORDS..WHEN HES FOCUSED. Many of you love to make statements about how Zab caught floyd, or Corley caught floyd etc etc, this is all true, however, some of you compare Zab/Corley catching floyd and claim Margarito will do the same easily. Ill tell you why this is not the case. Zab/Corley are much quicker than Margarito, their punches are not as easily seen and the footwork/stances/styles are not the same as Margarito's. I have seen about 7 Margarito fights, in each of those fights, Margarito fights in probably the most basic manner, plodding along for the most part, nothing about his game is deceptive, its straigth foward no bullshit pressure. Hes strong and his punches are stiff and they hurt, however, the way he sets up unfortunatly for him is taylor made for someone who is a properly prepared defensive fighter like Floyd is. I know ill get some hate for some of the things im saying (waits for ferocity to try to tell me im wrong on every angle) but hopefully you all see the logic in my statement. Your post was too simple and i can't really argue with anything you said. Maybe if i really, really wanted to but i was expecting a more detailed post, but still a fair post. No arguments here.

For the record, I believe you're both imagining things. People might talk about Zab's power but I haven't seen more than a single post where somebody said Zab is a much harder puncher than Margarito. Some people are just always looking for a reason to complain. Which is why i dedicated an entire thread to how people sometimes dont understand how punches are setup.

For the record, I believe you're both imagining things. People might talk about Zab's power but I haven't seen more than a single post where somebody said Zab is a much harder puncher than Margarito. Some people are just always looking for a reason to complain.

Funny you should say that. I could say the only big win Margarito has is over a relatively green Kermit Cintron. Don't try to suggest that Judah has a bad resume when the person on the other side of the coin is Margarito. i never said margarito has great power did i? he has power that breaks you down, aint really a 1 punch ko artist. ZAB, well people say he has all this great power, when its tottally false. marga hasnt really knocked anyone else out also..

i knew this was coming, i made an entire topic about it and i figured that eventually, ferocity would argue my point. From fighter to fighter and weight class to weight class different fighters setup differently. In this instance I will use Zab/Floyd/Margarito. Zab is a southpaw and a fantastic boxer when he wants to be. He can move, hes slick and he sets up in a deceptive fashion that makes it hard to know when hes gonna throw a vicious counter straight left or whichever punch he feels he can hit you with. His handspeed is outstanding and the way he sets up makes it very difficult to catch onto his rhythm when hes focused. KEYWORDS..WHEN HES FOCUSED. Many of you love to make statements about how Zab caught floyd, or Corley caught floyd etc etc, this is all true, however, some of you compare Zab/Corley catching floyd and claim Margarito will do the same easily. Ill tell you why this is not the case. Zab/Corley are much quicker than Margarito, their punches are not as easily seen and the footwork/stances/styles are not the same as Margarito's. I have seen about 7 Margarito fights, in each of those fights, Margarito fights in probably the most basic manner, plodding along for the most part, nothing about his game is deceptive, its straigth foward no bullshit pressure. Hes strong and his punches are stiff and they hurt, however, the way he sets up unfortunatly for him is taylor made for someone who is a properly prepared defensive fighter like Floyd is. I know ill get some hate for some of the things im saying (waits for ferocity to try to tell me im wrong on every angle) but hopefully you all see the logic in my statement.

Dont forget those uppercuts, man. Those dont bode well for hatton or cotto. By straight punches I simply meant more compact punches, as opposed to wider looping shots. I almost altered my sentence since I was thinking of his uppercuts as well ;)

juadah is an overated, underachiever... he never beat any one, only decent fighter he knocked out was spinks Funny you should say that. I could say the only big win Margarito has is over a relatively green Kermit Cintron. Don't try to suggest that Judah has a bad resume when the person on the other side of the coin is Margarito.

juadah is an overated, underachiever... he never beat any one, only decent fighter he knocked out was spinks Lets not call Judah overrated in a Margirito thread.

Their KO ratio is similar. That being said, I'll use almost the identical statement when discussing who hits harder between Rahman and Peter. Margarito throws harder, more clubbing shots that will compound into a KO. Zab will throw much more accurate, straight punches with good power on them that will result in a KO or a fight to be stopped when he pounces. Dont forget those uppercuts, man. Those dont bode well for hatton or cotto.

juadah is an overated, underachiever... he never beat any one, only decent fighter he knocked out was spinks

Their KO ratio is similar. That being said, I'll use almost the identical statement when discussing who hits harder between Rahman and Peter. Margarito throws harder, more clubbing shots that will compound into a KO. Zab will throw much more accurate, straight punches with good power on them that will result in a KO or a fight to be stopped when he pounces.