Here are some quotes that I compiled by the haters pre Wlad vs Peter.
Awesome, first Peter knocks out Wlad, and then he rids the boxing world of Chris "I fight once a year" Byrd. Great news.
Hell yeah! About time a fight in the heavyweight division happened that would have some meaning to the future of the division. I'll give props to Wlad to accept Sam Peter's challenge but I feel his days are now numbered. He will need more than just a jab to keep Peter off of him.
(LOL this one gave me quite a laugh)
how does speed, and skilled have anything to do with wlad? anyway peter will murdet his fag within 5 i say probably 4. i think klit will get caught early just by a half ass punch and then klit will run his ass off until sam catches him. i hope wlad takes this fight, id rather peter beat him then brock, for one thing i like peter better second im much more confident in peter beating wlad than brock although i think brock gets him to just not as well
lol @ clowns still believing in this bum Wlad. Peter is gonna KO him garunteed. The thought of being KO'd wont leave Wlads head. He has trouble with big punchers and guess what? Peter is the hardest hitting Heavyweight since a prime Tyson
Peter by savage kayo in 4, wlad has no chin and no heart, Peter is the next champ
I have very little respect for Wlad. I say Peter storms Wlads crystal castle and shatters it inside of 5 rounds.
Wlad gets Ko'd in about five. Best to ask Bill Cosby on this as Wlad will be turned into Vanilla Jello Pudding again. Just like he was against Sanders.
There is no IF about it, there is only one thing i`ll be saying TIMBER!!!!
I'd say anybody who predicted Wlad by KO have just as much to be made fun of about. Another pointless thread only to gloat as though you personally won the fight, or somehow silenced the haters.
I understand that you meant before and during the fight.
my point was that the fight instruction was a microcosm of what the prefight instruction was like. wlad was mentally prepared for this fight to the point that he took many opprutunities upon himself for this fight. steward was there for the ride. wlads defensive ability to break down Peter, as much praised as it was, was really fairly simple in concept. he knocked down left hooks with his hand and laughed all night at the fact that Sam Peter had never realized it could be done.
wlad knew when he took this fight what he had to do, and he did it, emmanuel steward trained a good fighter to fight the correct fight, comparing Sam Peters corner isnt fair, they were so far below world class they shouldnt be mentioned.
If Steward trained a good fighter to fight the correct fight, then he simply wasnt just "along for the ride".
....why do you think im ONLY talking about during the fight? Instruction in his camp, and guidance in his camp is what i mean, OBVIOUSLY thats what i mean.
Dont ever attack me thinking that im going off of some "i hate wlad" bias. Because not only do i not really care about Wlad, ive already congratulated him on getting back up from the 3 knockdowns the day the fight happened. Its not gonna kill me if him or his brother are world champions because the only HW i even really like is Lamon Brewster or maybe James Toney. Other than them, i dont really favor anyone else, and even those two guys i dont think will come close to running the table in the division, so it really doesnt matter.
I understand that you meant before and during the fight.
my point was that the fight instruction was a microcosm of what the prefight instruction was like. wlad was mentally prepared for this fight to the point that he took many opprutunities upon himself for this fight. steward was there for the ride. wlads defensive ability to break down Peter, as much praised as it was, was really fairly simple in concept. he knocked down left hooks with his hand and laughed all night at the fact that Sam Peter had never realized it could be done.
wlad knew when he took this fight what he had to do, and he did it, emmanuel steward trained a good fighter to fight the correct fight, comparing Sam Peters corner isnt fair, they were so far below world class they shouldnt be mentioned.
"MANNY'S INSTRUCTION AND GUIDANCE" as you put it consisted of this in between rounds..........
"beautiful, youre boxing him beautiful"
"him him like this when he misses with his left"
without those words of wisdom wlad would have been doomed.... lol
give me a fuckin break, wlad couldnt even hear steward, he was in the zone.
....why do you think im ONLY talking about during the fight? Instruction in his camp, and guidance in his camp is what i mean, OBVIOUSLY thats what i mean.
Seriously, ask yourself...How did Wlad know how to constantly defend himself from Peter's assault? How did he know what tendencies Peter would have during the fight? If you think simply watching a film is enough..your wrong. Much like an artist see's more than a regular person when it comes to a painting, an experianced trainer like Manny can see countless flaws and tendencies in breaking down a fighter. With that knowledge passed onto Wlad, along with guidance and instruction in the ring on how to defend it, Wlad was fully prepared to maximize his potential to win a fight.
I dont know if you have ever stepped in a ring before or broken down fight film for a fighter, but i will tell you that not everyone sees what certain elite trainers see, and on top of that, not every trainer can prepare a fighter as well as another. See the difference between Wlad's corner and Peter's? Along with Peters bad habits, he also got horrible instruction before and during the fight, which lead to his loss.
Dont ever attack me thinking that im going off of some "i hate wlad" bias. Because not only do i not really care about Wlad, ive already congratulated him on getting back up from the 3 knockdowns the day the fight happened. Its not gonna kill me if him or his brother are world champions because the only HW i even really like is Lamon Brewster or maybe James Toney. Other than them, i dont really favor anyone else, and even those two guys i dont think will come close to running the table in the division, so it really doesnt matter.
Im not a hater, dont ever classify me with some kind of bias. Thats just the truth, Wlad was well prepared and determined, alot of it is on him to follow instructions and know whats coming and remain in shape, but if it wasnt for MANNY'S INSTRUCTION AND GUIDANCE, he would not have won that fight, but he did and he won, end of story. Nobody could have prepared him like Manny did in my opinion, and probably the opinion of about 90 percent of other boxing observers who had (rightfully) written wlad off.
"MANNY'S INSTRUCTION AND GUIDANCE" as you put it consisted of this in between rounds..........
"beautiful, youre boxing him beautiful"
"him him like this when he misses with his left"
without those words of wisdom wlad would have been doomed.... lol
give me a fuckin break, wlad couldnt even hear steward, he was in the zone.
Here are some quotes that I compiled by the haters pre Wlad vs Peter.
(LOL this one gave me quite a laugh)
why are u bashing people who disagreed with you. many people believed peter would win, and peter really showed some holes in wlad's defenses. had wlad lost, and someone brought up all the shit u said, youd get pissed.
i actully picked wlad in this fight, but it pisses me off when people do stuff like this just to start flame wars
WTF? Whats your point? You make it sound as if it was Manny who fought the fight...
you haters just wont give up...
So its Manny who won the fight now? Not Wlad? Yeah, and his other wins are wins because God fancied him those days I gues....
Jezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............................
Im not a hater, dont ever classify me with some kind of bias. Thats just the truth, Wlad was well prepared and determined, alot of it is on him to follow instructions and know whats coming and remain in shape, but if it wasnt for MANNY'S INSTRUCTION AND GUIDANCE, he would not have won that fight, but he did and he won, end of story. Nobody could have prepared him like Manny did in my opinion, and probably the opinion of about 90 percent of other boxing observers who had (rightfully) written wlad off.
Go read some of the quotes. I don't see hatin in each quote. Yea some do. But hatin is part of the game, but bitching is not.
Sadly hating is part of the game. This is why we have threads ruined by 10 pages of people calling each other haters, nut huggers and coconuts (wtf?)
The idiots who claimed Peter or Wlad were bums didn't learn anything. They're still idiots and will die idiots while repeating the same nonsense. Hell, boxing wouldn't exist without those idiots sad to say.
Man this is boxing, anything can happen. People can be wrong at any time, I think it's kinda a childish to bring up peoples quotes.
This doesnt have to do with being wrong. If youre wrong you say I tihnk Peter will KO Wlad in 5 because I think he has a glass chin.
This:
"peter will murdet his fag"
"lol @ clowns still believing in this bum Wlad"
"wlad has no chin and no heart"
is not being wrong, its hatin.
I dont care how big of a fan you are of Wlad, without Steward, he loses the Peter fight. Nobody could have prepared Wlad like he did.
WTF? Whats your point? You make it sound as if it was Manny who fought the fight...
you haters just wont give up...
So its Manny who won the fight now? Not Wlad? Yeah, and his other wins are wins because God fancied him those days I gues....
Jezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............................
Dunno just dont like him. Didn't like how he fought Peter (although he did well to beat him) and I don't like the way he fights most of his fights.
Really I have no reason to hate him, because I don't mind if fighters can't take a good shot, but theres just something about him I don't like.
Im the same way about Ricardo Mayorga. I cant stand that guy.
It was awesome when Tito fucked him up.
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Why is that? Because he cant take a punch?
Dunno just dont like him. Didn't like how he fought Peter (although he did well to beat him) and I don't like the way he fights most of his fights.
Really I have no reason to hate him, because I don't mind if fighters can't take a good shot, but theres just something about him I don't like.
Im not talking about you, which is why i seperated the paragraphs. I agree with you, i just added onto your quote. It was directed at the topic creator.
Sorry been smokin a little maybe I am paranoid..LOL
Read my post again I don't like Wlad and was going for Peter....I was saying what you said Wlad would have been crumbled w/o Sterward or were you not including me in the "you all" part.
Im not talking about you, which is why i seperated the paragraphs. I agree with you, i just added onto your quote. It was directed at the topic creator.
but I hate Wlads pussy ass.
Why is that? Because he cant take a punch?
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I dont care how big of a fan you are of Wlad, without Steward, he loses the Peter fight. Nobody could have prepared Wlad like he did.
And again i ask, what is the point of these topics? People were wrong, im sure you all had fun saying you were right, but the fight was 2 weeks ago, and we are on the brink of other fights on the way. Must you focus on people being wrong and not being able to move on like some fuckin kid? I garuntee you whatever fight Wlad/Vitali lose will warrant the same "I TOLD YOU SO" shit that is happening now.
Read my post again I don't like Wlad and was going for Peter....I was saying what you said Wlad would have been crumbled w/o Sterward or were you not including me in the "you all" part.