Top 5 Junior Welterweights Today

It has mainly been down to Frank Warren that it's taken this long but he's finally fighting who he wants to. He hasn't been refusing title shots, Harris refused it even though it was probably his biggest purse to date at that time. I think it's wrong to put it all on Hatton & Warren though. I'd be very surprised if they hadn't tried to line up big fights behind the scenes. I think all of the top 5 or 6 are equally guilty in not wanting to take many risks before landing a shot at Zoo or whoever beats him. I can't remember the last big fight at 140 apart from KT v Mitchell where the result was in question before the fight. Yeah, I agree. When's the last time we even saw PBF Mayweather take a legitimate risk. That, in my opinion, has put Mayweather out of the elite in my opinion. I don't even consider him a threat to KT or anyone else because he simply doesn't take chances, hence he is nota true champion. The upcoming KT-Hatton fight is the best fight at welter we have seen in awhile.

I disagree I think chop-chop is toast, but we will see. I can agree with the later part of yer post though :cool: Ive talked to Chop before and he's a good guy. He lost to Floyd and Zab. How many guys wouldve beaten those 2. He is a leftie who will give Cotto alot of problems. He has sparred alot of rounds with Joppy, Tszyu, and Mayorga. Cotto will not KO him

1. Kostya Tszyu- After demolishing Sharmba Mitchell in 3 rounds, no one can argue against him being number 1 at 140. He's been the man for the last 6 years or so, and may be for 6 more. 2. Vivian Harris- After his frightening KO of Diosbelys Hurtado in 2002, he opened my eyes to him. He's been ducked and overlooked by alot of the top 140 lbers, and made a serious statement in knocking out Urkal. 3. Miguel Cotto- By leaps and miles the best of the Class of 2000, he made a huge statement on the Morales-Chavez undercard in blasting out Victoriano Sosa. What really impressed me was him being able to go to war with the rugges Lovemore N'Dou. 4. Arturo Gatti- Arturo is the most protected, overrated fighter at 140, save for Ricky Hatton. While I do enjoy him alot, I don't think anything of his WBC belt, which is only good for holding his pants up. If a proposed fight with Mayweather Jr. comes through, I will have respect for him. He needs to take on a legitimate contendor soon, and Leija would be that. Ten years ago. 5. Floyd Mayweather Jr.- Speed kills in boxing, and Mayweather has speed to burn. His 140 lb. debut was a smash hit, as he beat up on Demarcus "Chop Chop" Corley en route to a unanimous decision. His upcoming bout with Henry Bruseles is the biggest mismatch since Terry Norris blew away Joe Gatti, but he's got tremendous potential at 140.

I disagree I think chop-chop is toast, but we will see. I can agree with the later part of yer post though :cool:

Of course you say that Chop-Chop is'nt done. Then you would have to admit you were wrong. Cotto's comp is in no way better than Hattons. Both have had same amount of fighting. Cotto just stayed in amatures alot longer than Hatton so I say there equal in skill and competion. Actually I think clearly Hatton has had the better comp, but you to damn stuborn to admit it. Chop isnt done. Hatton probally has the best overall comp, but Cotto has the best win with N'Dou

All the guys you mentioned that Hatton beat were done. I wouldn't say Chop Chop is done, he just fought the best in Zab Judah and PBF. Of course you say that Chop-Chop is'nt done. Then you would have to admit you were wrong. Cotto's comp is in no way better than Hattons. Both have had same amount of fighting. Cotto just stayed in amatures alot longer than Hatton so I say there equal in skill and competion. Actually I think clearly Hatton has had the better comp, but you to damn stuborn to admit it.

One of the problems their going to have is the time, hence why there looking for an alternative venue to the City Centre I guess, I like the MEN because the roof holds the noice in, it justs gets manic. In the city centre I guess your looking at two hours after kick out time.....problems. There was talk that Manchester City Council wouldn't give them a permit for that location - don't know if thats true

not a for a few months yet if i see anything ill let you know mate :cool: i was at the pederson fight too. Great atmposhewre though Im hearing this could be at the reebok stadium in bolton. Man city ground is staging a womans football match, for f*** sake. Pay em to play a day later! I dont fancy bolton compared to Manchester to be quite honest.

When do you think tickets will go on sale, they'll go like hot cakes but I'm not missing this one after the Pederson farse Hopefuly the time will put some of the part time fans off. I think Wlad Warton signs today, so look out for the ticket at www.frankwarren.tv soon

ill be ringside mate to see it happen. :cool: When do you think tickets will go on sale, they'll go like hot cakes but I'm not missing this one after the Pederson farse

What are all you Hatton haters going to do if, and IMO when, he beats Zoo in June? Probably cry say Tszyu got old in the 1st round, or maybe say he hurt his knee! :rolleyes: If Tszyu wins i'll give him much respect, so i'd expect people to give Hatton the same if he wins.

ill be ringside mate to see it happen. :cool:

What are all you Hatton haters going to do if, and IMO when, he beats Zoo in June?

I didn't say he was overrated, his manager just hasn't taken the steps to get him bigger fights. I think he's very talented, but he has to step up his competition. He's had 37 fights for Christ's sake and he's turning down title shots because he doesn't have the edge. He's already got money, what he needs to do is show he has some balls. erm forgive me for pointing this out but he is taking on the real champ on june 4th. How much would you like him to step up? Perhaps go up middleweight and fight hopkins :eek: just playing.....hatton cant be accused of ducking fights now surely, he is taking on p4p fighter and the stand out best light welter in the world, something none of the others wanted to do. As for floyd, great skills but he doesnt carry the power and size to light welter, if he fights one of the top five he will find out the difference in strength, no one can touch him for skills but if they can walk through his punches, he is gonna have to run run run.....kostya would ko mayweather imo.

I didn't say he was overrated, his manager just hasn't taken the steps to get him bigger fights. I think he's very talented, but he has to step up his competition. He's had 37 fights for Christ's sake and he's turning down title shots because he doesn't have the edge. He's already got money, what he needs to do is show he has some balls. It has mainly been down to Frank Warren that it's taken this long but he's finally fighting who he wants to. He hasn't been refusing title shots, Harris refused it even though it was probably his biggest purse to date at that time. I think it's wrong to put it all on Hatton & Warren though. I'd be very surprised if they hadn't tried to line up big fights behind the scenes. I think all of the top 5 or 6 are equally guilty in not wanting to take many risks before landing a shot at Zoo or whoever beats him. I can't remember the last big fight at 140 apart from KT v Mitchell where the result was in question before the fight.

I'm sure he was treated very well, the German's hospitality has never been in question, just their judging. Anyone who know's the European fight scene will tell you that you usually have to win by KO to win at all there. If Hatton was the overated bum that a few people on here seem to think he is then Harris and Pinto would have taken the fights with him. I didn't say he was overrated, his manager just hasn't taken the steps to get him bigger fights. I think he's very talented, but he has to step up his competition. He's had 37 fights for Christ's sake and he's turning down title shots because he doesn't have the edge. He's already got money, what he needs to do is show he has some balls.

Harris said before the fight that he was treated very well in Germany and that he was actually thinking about moving there. I think Urkal had an apartment he was willing to sell him their. I'm sure he was treated very well, the German's hospitality has never been in question, just their judging. Anyone who know's the European fight scene will tell you that you usually have to win by KO to win at all there. If Hatton was the overated bum that a few people on here seem to think he is then Harris and Pinto would have taken the fights with him.

You'd rather go to Germany with it's long history of hometown decisions and fight a guy who took Zoo the distance for a fraction of the money being offered to fight Hatton? Harris said before the fight that he was treated very well in Germany and that he was actually thinking about moving there. I think Urkal had an apartment he was willing to sell him their.

If I was the champion and I had to go into my opponents backyard, get paid a lot less than my opponent, have 50,000 screaming fans aginst me, I wouldn't do it either. You'd rather go to Germany with it's long history of hometown decisions and fight a guy who took Zoo the distance for a fraction of the money being offered to fight Hatton?

I'd take 2 or 3 of the guy's on Hatton's record to beat anyone on Cotto's. It's well documented that Harris refused a fight with Hatton due to money then went to fight Urkhal in Germany for a lot less instead. If I was the champion and I had to go into my opponents backyard, get paid a lot less than my opponent, have 50,000 screaming fans aginst me, I wouldn't do it either.