This is why Toney is the Best HW out there

Look, its me. I used to come here before. I forgot so much about these posters. I did not agree with thegreat1, but he was kind to me. i havent seen most of these people in ages, I dont remember dr cynical ever coming back to NSB.

Wow! You must be a very big fan of James Toney. Well best of luck for you and your favorite fighter. Look, its me. I used to come here before. I forgot so much about these posters. I did not agree with thegreat1, but he was kind to me.

Toney is the best because everyone else sucks but Klitchsko... oh wait that makes him the second doesn't it.

I saw the fight. The fight was boring, annoying, disappointing, and fustrating. Nothing great about that fight. Booker is a nobody who was undefeated in 22 fights because he fought nothing but bums with huge loss records. If Toney was anywhere near as great as you people claim he is, he should have put this fat, powerless, hugging piece of shit Booker away in the 2nd round. It went 12 sleep-inducing rounds. He finally got Booker to go to one knee in the 9th round I think. So after that I expected Toney to take out Booker. But no, he still couldn't get him. Both fighters had no power whatsoever. Fights like these are the reason why I cannot stand the HW division. So tell me why you think Toney is great for going 12 uneventful rounds with a fat, weak, no skills having nobody? Toney actually tore his tricep muscles in the first round or he definitely would have stopped Booker early. During Toney's recovery after snapping his achilles tendon while preparing for McCline, he went on a weights program and all he was doing was upper body weights. He came in massive for Booker fight and due to overtraining upper body, both triceps went early.

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Ok it may have been a hook or a straight left but it wasn't a jab. If your right foot is in front of your left foot, you are in the southpaw stance, so a punch with your left cannot possibly be a jab.

I agree, IMO it probably would sell well, and wi the hook post I meant Wlad against Brewster.

He can't that's why its just a big payday for Toney. I would imagine that Toney would create a huge amount of press for the fight with his antics, and it will probably sell really well.

Wlad was hit with a short hook, it looked like a jab because it never got a chance to run its route.

Toney could not KO Jirov, with several clean, hard shots and was hurt by him a couple of times in the fight. He was hit way too much by Booker, and despite hitting him with almost everything he threw, couldn't KO Booker either. First, how can he hurt VK enough to keep VK from hitting him, and withstand VK's shots?

You dont understand shit and Im getting tired of explaining things to you. Im comparing the difference of skill between Booker and his opponents and the skill of Tarver vs Jones, respectively. Im not comaparing the skill of Booker to the skill of Tarver or Jones. Im saying the skill level difference between 2 fighters is somewhat comparable. The point was sometimes guys get KOed by lesser men. Thats it. Its a fact. Wlad back peddled from a fucking jab from Brewster so dont give me this stamina shit. Wlad is a pussy and thats all there is to the Wlad argument. You are sounding like a Wlad loving dumbass now. James Toney would destroy Wlad and end his career if its not already over. If you think Wlad could beat Toney you are a straight up Wlad nuthugger as they like to say on this site. Remember, this discussion started because you thought that Toney was weak beacause he didnt KO Booker. I countered your argument by saying that no one has KOed Booker so why how can you hate on Toney for not doing it either? You dont know how easy a guy he is to KO because no one has ever done it. You then said Toney didnt do enough against a low ranked fighter. Then I asked you what more could he have done? I guess total domination for 12 rds isnt good enough for you. You are the one making asinine arguments around here man. I'm just trying to verbally slap some sense into you. WORST POST EVER. Fuck you dumbass. :rolleyes: What are you talking about? You went from bad to worse. How is the skill difference between Jones and Tarver the same as it is between Booker and his opponents? Tarver like Jones is an A level fighter. They both are top 10 fighters at their weight class. Booker's opponents have been D and F level fighters (see rankings below) while Booker is a C level fighter. For this analogy to be correct Tarver would have to be a fighter who isn't even in the top 20. Where is TheGreat1 when you need him. Wlad got hit by a straight left. There is a difference between a straight left and a jab. Even you should know this. Are you really this dumb? Now you are comparing Toney to D and F level fighters. That is just shameful. Booker's last 5 opponents that are even ranked have world rankings of 427, 535, 87, 573, and 680. I must ask this question. Are you even a Toney fan? How can you keep bashing him like this if you are?

toney had to take 12 rounds with this no name??? comon james. i want a rematch with jirov, i think jirov would beat toney at HW. toney better fight a contendor next not some old holyfield or sum young no name. yea i wanna see jirov fight period

toney had to take 12 rounds with this no name??? comon james. i want a rematch with jirov, i think jirov would beat toney at HW. toney better fight a contendor next not some old holyfield or sum young no name.

yall wanna hear da sadest thing in the world..........tyson is still the best heavyweight... and he will be champ ... you cant say what you want but as slow as tyson is noone hits as fast and as hard..and all he has to do is work on technique... this aint goerge foreman... this aint a maybe.. tyson will be champ again.. he is bigger then ever and is in great shape still.. even wit the knee.. tyson is serious he has no choice.. and that aint even whats dangerous...whats dangerous is he wants it again

Vitali would have KO'd Booker. you may be right, but that doesn't mean he can handle toney. it means nothing.

Vitali would have KO'd Booker.

Wow! You must be a very big fan of James Toney. Well best of luck for you and your favorite fighter.

Roy Jones lost to Tarver who is a good fighter with a strong punch. How can you be comparing Tarver to the people that Booker has faced? TheGreat1 is not going to like this at all. Why are we talking about Wlad in a thread about Toney? Wlad has lost once due to a boxers punching power to Sanders. Sanders is one of the hardest hitting southpaws ever. If you had seen Purrity v. Wlad and Brewster v. Wlad you would realize that his stamina was the issue. Either way he didn't go down from a punch in either of those two fights. Toney has a better chance of beating Vitali than Wlad. Apparently you missed Vitali and Wlad v. Byrd. Wow Wlad has been KO'd by punches less powerful than Bookers? Are you trying to lose all credibility here? Worst post ever. You dont understand shit and Im getting tired of explaining things to you. Im comparing the difference of skill between Booker and his opponents and the skill of Tarver vs Jones, respectively. Im not comaparing the skill of Booker to the skill of Tarver or Jones. Im saying the skill level difference between 2 fighters is somewhat comparable. The point was sometimes guys get KOed by lesser men. Thats it. Its a fact. Wlad back peddled from a fucking jab from Brewster so dont give me this stamina shit. Wlad is a pussy and thats all there is to the Wlad argument. You are sounding like a Wlad loving dumbass now. James Toney would destroy Wlad and end his career if its not already over. If you think Wlad could beat Toney you are a straight up Wlad nuthugger as they like to say on this site. Remember, this discussion started because you thought that Toney was weak beacause he didnt KO Booker. I countered your argument by saying that no one has KOed Booker so why how can you hate on Toney for not doing it either? You dont know how easy a guy he is to KO because no one has ever done it. You then said Toney didnt do enough against a low ranked fighter. Then I asked you what more could he have done? I guess total domination for 12 rds isnt good enough for you. You are the one making asinine arguments around here man. I'm just trying to verbally slap some sense into you. WORST POST EVER. Fuck you dumbass. :rolleyes:

You need to get over your little letter grading system guy lol. :) All that stuff your saying doesnt mean shit. Sometimes good fighters get KOed by lesser fighters. Ask Roy Jones. If Booker is so bad, he would have been KOed or at least lost in one of his 22 fights. I doubt Booker would get KOed by Wlad in 2. I find that to be a hopful statement from a Wlad fan. I would actually bet that Booker would beat Wlad if they ever were to fight. Booker has a better chin than Wlad and Wlad has been KOed by punches less powerful that Bookers. Toney would destroy Wlad, hands down. And if you dont know that, I am convinced you are on crack or dont know shit about boxing. I already think your crazy. :rolleyes: Roy Jones lost to Tarver who is a good fighter with a strong punch. How can you be comparing Tarver to the people that Booker has faced? TheGreat1 is not going to like this at all. Why are we talking about Wlad in a thread about Toney? Wlad has lost once due to a boxers punching power to Sanders. Sanders is one of the hardest hitting southpaws ever. If you had seen Purrity v. Wlad and Brewster v. Wlad you would realize that his stamina was the issue. Either way he didn't go down from a punch in either of those two fights. Toney has a better chance of beating Vitali than Wlad. Apparently you missed Vitali and Wlad v. Byrd. Wow Wlad has been KO'd by punches less powerful than Bookers? Are you trying to lose all credibility here? Worst post ever.

Ok so Booker is a C level fighter, who is beating D and F level fighters. D and F level fighters don't KO C level fighters. Have you ever seen a D/F level fighter fight? No one is saying that Booker has a bad chin. He just clearly is no where near a fighter like Brewster in the chin department. Wlad would have KO'd Booker in at most 2. I'd put a lot of money on a KO in 1. Toney would be a perfect matchup for Wlad. It would be Byrd all over a again. A little opponent with a decent chin, who has good boxing skills, and little punching power. You need to get over your little letter grading system guy lol. :) All that stuff your saying doesnt mean shit. Sometimes good fighters get KOed by lesser fighters. Ask Roy Jones. If Booker is so bad, he would have been KOed or at least lost in one of his 22 fights. I doubt Booker would get KOed by Wlad in 2. I find that to be a hopful statement from a Wlad fan. I would actually bet that Booker would beat Wlad if they ever were to fight. Booker has a better chin than Wlad and Wlad has been KOed by punches less powerful that Bookers. Toney would destroy Wlad, hands down. And if you dont know that, I am convinced you are on crack or dont know shit about boxing. I already think your crazy. :rolleyes: