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[StarshipTrooper]

I don't think it's actually his style.

I think it's his DOMINANCE.

He positions his opponents where he wants them to be positioned and then he beats them even more into submission.

We could assume that the opponents just came to be beaten, but this is obviously not the case as we know EXCITING ACTION FIGHTS of Wlad's opponents. It's Wlad's sheer dominance that makes opponents helpless.

And by the way: Everyone who is complaining about "Wlad being jab-jab-jab" needs to be reminded that Wlad's jab is harder than Ali's right hook.

Ross Purrity anyone?

Poet

[knn]

I just love it when people show their ******ity without me having to actually expose it. It sames me so much work! Typical alt post though: Tunney or one of his groupies have to use alts to say what they REALLY think as they realize that doing it under their own names would bring far too much scorn and derission down on them.

Poet

Hmm, so far I didn't see any factual counter-argument. All I see is your PINK FONT.

[D-MiZe]

Hmm, so far I didn't see any factual counter-argument. All I see is your PINK FONT.

Looks purple to me?

[StarshipTrooper]

Hmm, so far I didn't see any factual counter-argument. All I see is your PINK FONT.

I don't need provide any: Your ignorance and ******ity speaks for itself! Anybody who knows ANYTHING about boxing knows you're talking out of your ass.....and they know you're a coward who can't post under your real ID.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

Looks purple to me?

Apparently they don't like purple font. I'd hazzard to guess they didn't like Joe Louis using purple trunks either. Or Hagler if my memory serves me right.

Poet

[The Hammer]

Looks purple to me?

No, this is purple.

[knn]

Ross Purrity anyone? Poet

Yup, seen that before.

These are the steps of the good-old-time-syndrome:

1. Haha, he compares modern heavies to Ali, our god.
2. What? He still dares to compare Ali to modern heavies? Ali was soooo much better
3. What, he refers to Ali's ACTUAL record? Ali's opponents were sooo much better!
4. Ali's opponents' opponents were soooo much better
5. Leave me alone with your facts. Anyone who knows boxing disagrees with you.
6. Ali had better footwork/heart/ringmanship.
7. Corrie Sanders anyone?
8. Go **** yourself.

I see you already arrived at the pre-last argument.

[Dave Rado]

I don't think it's actually his style.

I think it's his DOMINANCE.

Keep dreaming.

[GJC]

I didn't count KOs against sub-200 opposition and KOs after round 12.

That's ridiculous.

Why not only count southpaws or signs of the zodiac that are water signs.
I've seen some cherry picking of stats and information on here but that is a cracker.

[GJC]

1. That is because they upgrade his cruiserfights to heavyweight fights. Just like Toney is suddenly a heavyweight with a *cough* heavyweight record of 71-6 JUST BECAUSE he got fatter. You have to count cruiserweight opponents for the cruiserweight record and keep them out of the heavyweight record.
2. Obviously they are not comparing records but "some fights of Ali" with "some fights of someone else". A basic mistake in all comparisons. You cannot compare merely someone's best performance and neglect the whole career.

Ali is an ATG. But he can be soooo boring. Clinches twice as much as Klitschko by the way (I stopwatched), KOs seldomly and has no defense whatsoever. You cannot consider Klitschko a boring fighter without considering Ali an even more boring fighter.

Just watch Ali vs Norton, any round any time: Basically all of Norton's jabs land, even the slowest ones. HOW CAN THIS CRAP BE GOOD?

Or watch Ali vs Earnie Terrell (WBA world heavyweight title, Terell at that time 38-4). Ali runs away the whole fight, Terell has no clue what to do, as soon as he comes closer to Ali, Ali clinches, grabs his neck and insults him. Ali lands some weak shots (how could they be strong when he is punching while running backwards?). My god ANY modern heavy would walk THROUGH Terell. Ali went 15 rounds with him. Ali's record is full of such "good guys" like Terell.

• Ali had merely 15 (FIFTEEN!) KOs in his entire heavyweight career (200+) How can this be exciting?
• 7 of these KOs were against bums like Miteff (26-13) or Besmanoff (51-34).
• The rest against doubtful opposition like
  • half-blind Frazier
  • probably drugged Foreman
  • gunshot-wounded Cleveland Williams
  • Jimmy Ellis who boxed as low as 155 lbs.
• Ali's record has a lot of such doubtful opponents like
  • 25 years older Archie Moore
  • George Chuvalo, who is actually OK but has lost 12 of his 19 bouts against somewhat good 200+ opponents
• Ali's AVERAGE opponent was 205 lbs. Wlad IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER HAS not fought anyone as low as that.
• Ali's HEAVIEST OPPONENT he ever KOed within 12 was 223 lbs. That is lighter than Wlads AVERAGE opponent.
• Remember Wlad vs Ibragimov? The small guy (Ibragimov) was as heavy as Foreman when Ali fought him.

Get real people. Ali's fights were basically pumped up cruiserweight fights. Basically what the cruiser division is now. Noone is interested in that anymore. Watch some real heavyweight fights like Lennox vs Klitschko or Platov vs Williams.

You are without doubt the ******est poster on here. I rarely get annoyed and think everyone is entitled to their opinion but you are frankly a joke. You have no love of the sport just an unhealthy obsession with 2 brothers. Your filtering of any fact that doesn't suit is wonderful, so any fight or fighter that doesn't fit into the Wlad is best theory can be discounted as a cruiserweight fight?
As for Frazier being featherfisted and Ali having no defense you just show your ignorance. Frazier would destroy the Klitschko brothers in the same night and neither of them would hit Ali if they threw rice at him.
Red K away.