David Haye Was Medically Cleared For July 25 To Fight
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I just love it when people show their ******ity without me having to actually expose it. It sames me so much work! Typical alt post though: Tunney or one of his groupies have to use alts to say what they REALLY think as they realize that doing it under their own names would bring far too much scorn and derission down on them.
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Yup, seen that before.
These are the steps of the good-old-time-syndrome:
- Haha, he compares modern heavies to Ali, our god.
- What? He still dares to compare Ali to modern heavies? Ali was soooo much better
- What, he refers to Ali's ACTUAL record? Ali's opponents were sooo much better!
- Ali's opponents' opponents were soooo much better
- Leave me alone with your facts. Anyone who knows boxing disagrees with you.
- Ali had better footwork/heart/ringmanship.
- Corrie Sanders anyone?
- Go **** yourself.
I see you already arrived at the pre-last argument.Last edited by knn; 06-28-2009, 09:05 AM.Comment
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- That is because they upgrade his cruiserfights to heavyweight fights. Just like Toney is suddenly a heavyweight with a *cough* heavyweight record of 71-6 JUST BECAUSE he got fatter. You have to count cruiserweight opponents for the cruiserweight record and keep them out of the heavyweight record.
- Obviously they are not comparing records but "some fights of Ali" with "some fights of someone else". A basic mistake in all comparisons. You cannot compare merely someone's best performance and neglect the whole career.
Ali is an ATG. But he can be soooo boring. Clinches twice as much as Klitschko by the way (I stopwatched), KOs seldomly and has no defense whatsoever. You cannot consider Klitschko a boring fighter without considering Ali an even more boring fighter.
Just watch Ali vs Norton, any round any time: Basically all of Norton's jabs land, even the slowest ones. HOW CAN THIS CRAP BE GOOD?
Or watch Ali vs Earnie Terrell (WBA world heavyweight title, Terell at that time 38-4). Ali runs away the whole fight, Terell has no clue what to do, as soon as he comes closer to Ali, Ali clinches, grabs his neck and insults him. Ali lands some weak shots (how could they be strong when he is punching while running backwards?). My god ANY modern heavy would walk THROUGH Terell. Ali went 15 rounds with him. Ali's record is full of such "good guys" like Terell.
- Ali had merely 15 (FIFTEEN!) KOs in his entire heavyweight career (200+) How can this be exciting?
- 7 of these KOs were against bums like Miteff (26-13) or Besmanoff (51-34).
- The rest against doubtful opposition like
- half-blind Frazier
- probably drugged Foreman
- gunshot-wounded Cleveland Williams
- Jimmy Ellis who boxed as low as 155 lbs.
- Ali's record has a lot of such doubtful opponents like
- 25 years older Archie Moore
- George Chuvalo, who is actually OK but has lost 12 of his 19 bouts against somewhat good 200+ opponents
- Ali's AVERAGE opponent was 205 lbs. Wlad IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER HAS not fought anyone as low as that.
- Ali's HEAVIEST OPPONENT he ever KOed within 12 was 223 lbs. That is lighter than Wlads AVERAGE opponent.
- Remember Wlad vs Ibragimov? The small guy (Ibragimov) was as heavy as Foreman when Ali fought him.
Get real people. Ali's fights were basically pumped up cruiserweight fights. Basically what the cruiser division is now. Noone is interested in that anymore. Watch some real heavyweight fights like Lennox vs Klitschko or Platov vs Williams.
As for Frazier being featherfisted and Ali having no defense you just show your ignorance. Frazier would destroy the Klitschko brothers in the same night and neither of them would hit Ali if they threw rice at him.
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