i have no problem saying it was close...please dont tell me gee won that fight and you are sure of it....you need to be checked in to a facility
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anyone defending golovkin and saying he was robbed clearly has mental issues
i have no problem saying it was close...please dont tell me gee won that fight and you are sure of it....you need to be checked in to a facility
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7Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostOh dear.
Bundrage
Just woke up and even though I went with @Canelo I still can't believe how he dominated GGG what a amazing performance by Cinnamon @HBOboxing
— Cornelius Bundrage (@K9boxing) September 16, 2018
Truax
8-4 Canelo#CaneloGGG2 #boxing
— caleb truax (@GoldenCalebT) September 16, 2018
Trout
Idk I thought Canelo won but I’ll watch it again tho. Helluva fight!!! #CaneloGGG
— Austin Trout (@NoDoubtTrout) September 16, 2018
Ward
@KadoHinson Sorry bro. The right guy won.
— Andre S.O.G. Ward (@andreward) September 16, 2018
Linares
Fue muy clara la victoria de @Canelo lo vi ganar por 3 puntos
— #TeamLinares (@JorgeLinares) September 16, 2018
Murray
Me and archiemuzzer scorecards for #GolovkinCanelo2. Another close fight but both gave it Canelo by 1 https://t.co/E24wRSbJF0
— Martin Murray (@MartinMurrayBox) September 16, 2018
Shields
Canelo earned it. By a round or 2.... ggg just seemed off tonight. Too slow. But....... at least we got a winner!
— ClaressaT-rexShields (@Claressashields) September 16, 2018
Khan
What a fight #CaneloGGG2 I gave the fight to Canelo. It was toe to toe action, Very exciting. Canelo surprised us all with the come forward pressure game plan. Well done to both Canelo and GGG. Boxing needed this @HBOboxing @GoldenBoyBoxing
— Amir Khan (@amirkingkhan) September 16, 2018
Haye
In the @BTSportBoxing studio there was a perfect storm of scores: I had a draw, @richiewoodhall Golovkin by 2 & @mrdavidhaye Canelo by 2.
— Steve Bunce (@bigdaddybunce) September 16, 2018
Foreman
I’d given Canelo 7 rds https://t.co/6D0QwVABuo
— George Foreman (@GeorgeForeman) September 16, 2018
Smith
6-5-1 to Canelo. Great fight. Two top class fighters. Watched that many slow mo replays and rewound just to say “wow” watching Canelo feint the left hook to the body and turn it to something else. I feel for Golovkin. He’s had 24 great rounds & only 1 of the 6 judges gave him it
— Paul Smith Jnr (@PaulSmithJnr) September 16, 2018
Monroe
I though the decision rendered was right felt like Canelo won both fights and this time it was more convincing
— Willie Monroe jr (@WILLIEMONROEJR) September 16, 2018
Mora
8-4 or 9-3 for the Mexican. Body shots were the difference #CaneloGGG2
— Sergio Mora (@TheLatinSnake_) September 16, 2018
Plant
115-113 canelo. Controlled the center of the ring, dictated the pace most of the fight and was the ring general 80% of the time if not more. He was winning a majority of the exchanges. That wins fight. GGG beat him at the jab but jabs don’t out score right hands and left hooks.
— CalebPlant (@SweetHandsPlant) September 16, 2018
Fowler
Respect to @canelo I scored it 115-113 in his favour, he put on a great show and pushed @gggboxing back out of his comfort zone, but I don’t think Canelo will ever win the love of the fans back now though after failing that drug test #caneloggg2 pic.twitter.com/mDjmM0E7fC
— Anthony Fowler (@afowler06) September 16, 2018
Coldwell
Listen. If GGG has won I’d still say it was a close fight. A close fight can go either way.
— Dave Coldwell (@davidcoldwell) September 16, 2018
I scored it ONE round to Canelo. With one round even. If that goes GGG it’s a draw.
If ONE of the close rounds I go GGG instead i then have GGG the winner.
Quigley
So I watched the fight and I had it 115-117 in favor of canelo , what a great fight boxing fans have to be happy with that , also I can see by the commentary why people might be swayed to think GGG won , #CaneloGGG2
— Jason Quigley (@jay_quigley) September 17, 2018
Cordina
Great fight and I think the right man won but very close.
— Joe Cordina OLY (@JoeCordina_91) September 16, 2018
And @Canelo boxing skills are just next level
Stevenson
That’s bull**** Canelo won https://t.co/ysmxtMJxsD
— Shakur Stevenson (@ShakurStevenson) September 16, 2018
Garcia
But he still has the best resume in boxing right now and cmon he beat GGG https://t.co/0ok7Ysr7qT
— Ryan Garcia (@Ryankingry) September 19, 2018
Also had Canelo winning:
Mikey Garcia
Robert Garcia
Mayweather Sr
Miguel Cotto
Errol Spence
David Lemieux
Mungia
Here's a link to the actual press row scorecards. You know, people who actually sit down at the fight with a pen and paper and score it. Not people who are casually asked who they thought won. Btw the fact that you took the time to post what you did is pathetic. Do you have a job, woman, or life whatsoever? Or do you just love Canelo that much?Last edited by Jab jab boom; 09-19-2018, 08:22 PM.
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Posthttps://twitter.com/HeavyBagBoxing/s...136604161?s=19
Here's a link to the actual press row scorecards. You know, people who actually sit down at the fight with a pen and paper and score it. Not people who are casually asked who they thought won. Btw the fact that you took the time to post what you did is pathetic. Do you have a job, woman, or life whatsoever. Or do you just live Canelo that much?
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Canelo didn't win shit. There were a lot of close rounds that were very difficult to score and the fight was hotly contested.
Gennady didn't lose this bout. The fight could have easily ended up a draw or gone for GGG . It was just that close. It's just that the three judges favored Canelo's fighting style over Golovkin's.
In all actuality, Canelo lost this fight but was awarded the decision. Although, he made several adjustments from the previous bout. However, make no mistake about it; Saul Canelo Alvarez didn't dominate shit by any stretch of the imagination.
At least to me, he still got his ass whooped; Because in my judgement Golovkin done more. I even scored it in my unofficial scorecard that way.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostSo the press know more than the fighters? But a lot of the press haven't even boxed. You used that as an insult earlier. Make up your mind.
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Originally posted by j.razor View PostWho even likes Triple L, you? LMMFAO!
Andre's opinion is more valid than ANY person punching buttons at ringside, you or the so called "Boxing Experts" they "hire"
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The salt in this thread tastes absolutely gorgeous.
Originally posted by Vlad_ View PostNow, now, Andre.
You’re one to talk about Vegas decisions...
The only thing broken is your body after Kovalev broke it and pushed you into retirement.Originally posted by DramaShow View Postkovalev won clearly against you in the first fight you piece of ****.Originally posted by T-1000 View PostIf you brake somebody in a fight, he doesn‘t win 3 of the last 4 rounds. Ward is still salty GGG got the Jordan deal.Originally posted by Vlad_ View PostWhy are you talking about their second fight, when you know damn well Kovalev was robbed in their first fight.Originally posted by Pigeons View PostWard letting some of his jealousy show. It was a close fight, neither guy broke the other.Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostFrom the mouth of the guy who got a gift in the Kovalev fight, LMAO! I wonder if he really believes his own B.S.Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostOne ducker and likely PED user defending another, just like Roy Jones, Andre Ward's idol, another PED user, defended Canelo.
Two American cheaters and duckers all ganging up to defend a Mexican cheater and ducker and lie about a Khazak boxer who worked his way from nothing to come to America after two of his brothers were killed in the military, was ducked throughout his prime, was ducked by Canelo, then got robbed in the first fight, had the rematch delayed because of Canelo's PED use, and then got robbed in the rematch as well.
And Ward calls himself a Christian? All three of them are showing their true colors. Anyone who takes what they're saying as objective and honest is neither themselves. What's crazy to me is that two of them, Roy and Ward, are major commentators for American boxing. No wonder so many American boxing fans are so stupid when it comes to boxing, and so xenophobic and biased. They are being taught the game by these biased, hateful fools.Originally posted by saopaulo View PostCheater recognize cheater... Thats the way it always worksOriginally posted by markther View PostFirst of all, don’t get courage with me over a keyboard. I know people. I can find you and have someone take care of you.
Secondly, I predicted that Canelo would win by a decision. I even stated that I wouldn’t post here anymore. Then I considered GGG. Then I said, I have to stick with my gut feeling and my original pick, Canelo by decision. Rematches favor fighters with more tools in the tool box. You can look up any post here about Canelo and GGG and you will see that.
3rd, I am not a fan of any fighter. I am a fan of boxing period. And I’ve been a fan for over 30 years. I still train around bunch of fighters and trainers to stay in shape.
4th. Here is the link with Roy
https://youtu.be/6KhLpmcM1QsOriginally posted by Boxing Logic View PostDon't you know? Every foreign boxer is just a hypejob created by "the white supremacists at HBO," I mean couldn't you hear them favoring GGG and ****ting on Canelo all night? They wanted Canelo to lose so bad! Everything is always in GGG's favor, and against Canelo and the American brothers! Every foreign boxer is a hypejobcreated by white supremacist HBO, and whenever they lose more 2 rounds in a fight, it means they were "exposed," and any time a decision goes against them, no matter how corrupt the judges (for Loma it was in Texas with the worst ref in the world son of the commissioner I believe, for Kovalev and GGG it was Vegas), it's not just a loss, it means they were "broken." When Kovalev got hit with 50 low blows by Ward, and got three uppercuts in a row right to the nuts and bent down expecting Ward to get warned, that was him "quitting." When GGG won the last 3 rounds against Canelo and stunned him twice, that meant Canelo "broke" GGG.
It honestly feels like bizarro world, that these are the people given large megaphones to voice what is supposed to be the normal, official take on what happened. Just because guys like Roy and Ward are ex-boxers does not mean they are fair-minded, good people who should be given the power and RESPONSIBILITY of that megaphone. They clearly either have personal animus towards GGG, or are simply xenophobic or jealous (very Christian, Andre) or something. The man gets ducked by Canelo for 3 years, Canelo even drops the belt to delay the fight until GGG is past his prime, Canelo only takes the fight after he sees clear slippage from GGG against both Brook and Jacobs (I noticed him slipping way before that but it only showed up obviously once GGG faced Brook and Jacobs), they rob GGG the first time, then Canelo pops for steroids and makes GGG get even a year older, then in the rematch I think GGG's altitude extreme training is really *****ing with his body now at this age because he was breathing super heavy against Canelo before Canelo even hit him once in the body... so basically after all that, I think GGG hit the wall, physically, by the 2nd or 3rd round against Canelo, a prime, fast, big puncher, in the biggest fight of GGG's career... so GGG was having to fight this guy with no air in his lungs, at only a percentage of his best self, and yet with his skill but mostly pure heart, after EVERYTHING that went against him, mostly by Canelo, Vegas, HBO, and other people, but some by his own team's mistakes, after ALL that, GGG still manages to put in an epic performance that will remembered for a long time and COME BACK to beat the prime opponent who actually has a competent trainer, but still look how they talk about him.
It reminds me of how Chocolatito moved up in weight to fight much bigger men, at an age where Chocolatito was already reaching the end of his prime, then he signed to fight a much bigger, super dangerous, super hard punching mandatory, Sor Rungvisai, instead of ducking his mandatory like so many of the American and Mexican stars do, then Sor Rungvisai dropped him with a body shot in the first round before headbutting him multiple times not long later, and Chocolatito had to fight the rest of the fight with blood spurting out his face in his eyes, against a much bigger, huge punching opponent, and yet somehow Chocolatito came back against all the odds and put in Rocky type of performance, only for the decision to be given to Sor Rungvisai, ironically, some believe, to clear the #1 P4P spot up so they could give it to the American, Ward.
Now, that fight Im still not actually sure who deserved to win, but it was an epic performance worthy of respect. The other reason it reminds me of Canelo-GGG II is that despite the performance Chocolatito gave, all the usual suspects were still online ****ting on him and calling him a white hypejob, I kid you not.
Canelo-GGG II, GGG definitely won, but it's the same type of thing. Everything was put in place to make him lose, that is what the powers that be wanted to happen, but with pure heart and will he flipped that script and forced them to rob him again if they were going to give it to Canelo. So, they did. Anyone who celebrates that most likely just had some serious family issues growing up or something and they have serious issues, they're not a fair or balanced person, they're the type of people who would poison an opponent before a fight but still beat their chest after knocking him out. Pathetic, little people. Not all, some are just Mexican homers, but many of the others are just pathetic.Originally posted by el*** View PostWard ducked GGG at 164.Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody View Postthought it was interesting when Stephen Smith asked Ward if he thought there would be a rematch, Ward said something like, 'No, when the smaller man has gotten a victory like that, he needs to take the win, and move on', almost as if to say, count your blessings, and cherish the "victory"
hardly surprising that Ward would say some unsporting BS like this, tho, reallyOriginally posted by QballLobo View PostCanelo beat his ass worse than Ward would have.Originally posted by ThunderFists View PostAndre ward will always be jealous of golovkin even though he is much more accomplished. But ppl wil always love ggg more than andre because ggg has always been sincere fan friendly and never had any of his victories tarnished by controversy. Ggg may have a smaller legacy but a more powerful legacy andre will always have questions and if when regarding his careerOriginally posted by Vlad_ View PostWard felt the pain and QUIT boxing like the diva bitch that he is. Kovalev ended his career like he said he would.Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Postward sounds saltier than GGG's fansOriginally posted by twosweethooks View PostMan I hate to tell Andre the truth! Truth is gonna Hurt. It just flays you wide open. It sets things straight!! The truth is incontrovertible!!!
The statement that Andre made about G is false that the truth! Canelo didn’t break G !! G hand Canelo on Queer Street what in round 9 or ten. The fight in the Garden might have gone the other way and definitely the first fight would have!!!
Andre is Jealous of G’s record and Knockouts!!
The TRUTH about boring Andre is : He is FULL IF SHLT !!Originally posted by Tamuera View PostUnsurprisingly, Andre Ward STILL is full of ****.Originally posted by G22 View PostWard knows all about getting dodgy decisions in Vegas. He clearly got beat by Kovalev first time
Ward and Canelo aren't losing in VegasOriginally posted by Boksfan View PostWard you are a scumbag and nobody cares about you.Originally posted by Boksfan View PostClenelo Alvaroid is a drug cheat and ugly gingerOriginally posted by NotaPachugger View PostDefinition of a bitter loser. Trying to cover today's news.with old irrelevant news. You are really making yourself look stupid .Originally posted by milkey1 View PostWard showing his true colors and hate he has for the white male GGG
Fact is 34 at press row had GGG winning 2 had Canelo winning and 11 had it a draw let that sink inOriginally posted by MrShakeAndBake View PostWard is a piece of s h i t boxer... was outboxed by kova in the first fight, and was eating jabs and losing a fight in the second untill he started his ball busting. Let that sink in...Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View PostWard was never very good anyway, outside USA nobody knows him. he is just jealous GGG is bigger name that he ever was.Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View PostHow do you break someone who according to most people still won the fight? Ward is a bitter man still it seems and his opinion towards GGG unfortunately will be biased.Originally posted by hugh grant View PostGgg won comfortably but it it didn't look comfortable because of bodydhots. But you don't score extra points for body shots.
Ggg.might have looked awkward at times but he was still throwing and racking up pointsOriginally posted by factsarenice View PostWard always disliked Golovkin, thought he was better and should make more but didn't. Human frailty, nobody is perfect.Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake View PostUmmm 5 last rounds were all GGG, STFU coWard phag0t.
Trilogy!Originally posted by Boksfan View PostWho cares what coWard has to say anyway?Originally posted by ThunderFists View PostTriple g will always be loved by the boxing fans more than Andre ward will ever be. Even if ward gets to 100-0 he will never be loved like G has and admired. Always giving us foty candidates spectacular knockouts and clean fights unlike andre who people will always bring up his dodgy decision against kov and his dodgy tactics against kov in the rematch dont forget people will always prefer the style of golovkin of that of ward who has headbutted elbowed and open gloved his whole career. No matter what childish remarks like 'ohh triple L omg im so funny lmfao' you make it wont change the fact golovkin will always be loved than wardOriginally posted by JakeTheBoxer View PostIt is how is is. I am not Russian or American and here in my country only hard hard boxing fans know Ward. he is nobody.Originally posted by hugh grant View PostVisually to people it seemed the body punches effected Ggg which is probably what you Ggg hating Floyd fans mean took more punishment.
Nel o threw those body punches in the hope they slow Ggg down and stop Ggg punching him back too much.
But ask yourself how much they helped as Ggg threw and landed more.
Why are you still overanalyse ing to make a case for a Nell win?
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostSo the press know more than the fighters? But a lot of the press haven't even boxed. You used that as an insult earlier. Make up your mind.
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Originally posted by jcj0427 View Postlearning to score a fight and being a fighter doesnt necessarily go hand in hand. im not sure the 3 judges ringside every fought in a ring as professional fighters. meanwhile the press are there to report and score the fight.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostFighters are in a better position to judge what the fighters are doing and if punches land/hurt. They've been in the ring and know what to look for. I'd trust their opinion over a fat dan,who's closest thing he's been to a punch is the drink at the buffet table.
once again, professional judges don't necessarily need a fighting background to score boxing matches, yet they are paid to judge big fights. just because you are boxer does not mean you know how to score a fight better then a media press member.
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