Has there ever been a P4P entrant who has fought the worst opposition for 4 years?

[1hourRun]

Probably not however you will not put money against him with the bookies - unless hes fighting Kovalev or some other P4P fighter lol...why is a guy who is not suppose to be a P4P fighter getting at least even money with the casinos? in most instances hes going in the favorite against Kovalev.

[joseph5620]

Probably Golovkin. Dominic wade.... wow. Ward isn't even a belt holder at 175 but he's fighting the type of opponents Golovkin and Kovalev fight (Barrera was Kov's mandatory).

That's pretty accurate. Unfortunately idiots like the thread starter will ignore it.

[Redd Foxx]

GGG in the last 4 years has fought former title holder Geale, current holder Lem and men who arguably beat Sturm, Murray and Macklin. And in the last 4 years of his career, he has not only accumulated 3 of the 4 available title belts, he has annihilated his opponents.

Try again.

Edit: Plus, GGG has only been a p4p entrant for less than half the time Ward has been.

You still didn't address anything I said. The truth can be frustrating, I know. If you don't like getting embarrassed, don't make stupid threads.

[soul_survivor]

You still didn't address anything I said. The truth can be frustrating, I know. If you don't like getting embarrassed, don't make stupid threads.

Can you read, I just said Golovkin faced better opp and you didn't reply to that because you know that's the truth and GGG hasn't been a p4p entrant as long.

So again, has there ever been a fighter who has managed to stay on the p4p list of idiots like you for 4 years with worse opposition fought? Not only that, many still label him p4p no. 1.

Probably not however you will not put money against him with the bookies - unless hes fighting Kovalev or some other P4P fighter lol...why is a guy who is not suppose to be a P4P fighter getting at least even money with the casinos? in most instances hes going in the favorite against Kovalev.

Look, I'm not denying Wards skill, although he is a level below what he was in 2011-12, especially the way he looked against Smith and Barrera. I'm just saying, p4p isn't just saying "oh yeah fighter A is so skilled, mythically he'd beat so and so". At some point, that guy has to prove his worth. Ward has not done so in nearly half a decade.

[Redd Foxx]

you will not put money against him with the bookies...
...in most instances hes going in the favorite against Kovalev.

Good point. I just looked this up at OddsChecker. At even odds, it looks like the world knows something the OP doesn't;

[soul_survivor]

Vote in the poll guys, so I know who knows boxing and who doesn't.

[soul_survivor]

Good point. I just looked this up at OddsChecker. At even odds, it looks like the world knows something the OP doesn't;

How about you answer how Paul Smith, Barrera and that latin fool from 2013 are better than macklin, murray, geale, lem, stevens, heck even ishida and proksa...and how not having any title wins is better than having 3 of the available 4?

Don't worry, my thread updates will let me know when you answer, so take your time. Ask some friends, go on boxrec, you know, the usual noob stuff.

[Swatty]

another horrific thread

he is about to fight kovalev and threads like this are being made

all of a sudden, boxing fans have long term memory...when it suits them

you guys are a disgrace man

He's about to fight Alexander Brand. That will most likely happen. It shouldn't add a bit to his "p4p resume".

[soul_survivor]

He's about to fight Alexander Brand. That will most likely happen. It shouldn't add a bit to his "p4p resume".

cmon, you can say that, brand is p4p too!

[Redd Foxx]

Can you read, I just said Golovkin faced better opp and you didn't reply to that because you know that's the truth and GGG hasn't been a p4p entrant as long.

So again, has there ever been a fighter who has managed to stay on the p4p list of idiots like you for 4 years with worse opposition fought? Not only that, many still label him p4p no. 1.

Settle down, you're getting angry because you dug yourself a hole here. No, his comp has not been better and GG is the one who is the belt holder. I don't blame GGG for 160 being shallow on talent, but when someone tries to pretend that those cans are something special because they are the best of their division, that's when I gotta throw the flag down.

When you say GG has only been there half the time, you only defeat yourself. Ward actually beat real opposition some time back and hasn't lost since then. Those older fights shouldn't get the same credit as they did 4 years ago but you can't conveniently ignore them either because he proved he can dominate legit comp, Golovkin's pinnacle is martin Murrary, who himself never beat anyone mentionable.

What hole are you going to crawl back into when Ward beat Kovalev??