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  • Originally posted by New England View Post
    no way. not in the wild. animals don't just take risks like that.

    they'd probably size each other up from a distance for hours. maybe even days.
    If the pitbull was a dog fighting pitbull, it wouldnt take long. Dogs are very good at communicating with their body and eyes, all it takes is one look to get the other dog focused and riled up. If wolf sees a pitbull staring at him trying to assert dominance, hes gonna get pissed. And then there are other less humane ways of getting the dogs riled up to be fighters.

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    • Originally posted by akScoundrel View Post
      Wolves werent bred period. While pitbulls are bred to fight, wolves are just natural born killers. They have to kill to survive, and they are damn good at it.

      As far as why wolves arent in hotlanta, its extrmely hard to get a hold of a pure wild wolf. Extremely hard, and extremely dangerous. Even if the wolf is 'domesticated' or only half wolf, the element of the wild is still present in the wolf, still very dangerous. Its just not practical for hoodlums to get a wolf.

      Whats so different is exactly what the wolf is. An untamed vicious killing machine. Twice as big as a pit, a bite force considerably harder, natural protectants like a thick mane covering the neck, etc.

      As far as wolves fighting in the wild, its relative to size/strength/and just making a point within their pack. They are trying to survive, not kill eachother. They are merely trying to assert their dominance, and place the other member back in his place. As far as being relative, they are both big dogs able to take eachothers blows. Its like sergio martinez fighting other middleweights, as opposed to sergio fighting....donaire.
      Breeding and evolution are the same thing. Breeding is just more specialized and controlled.

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      • Originally posted by Even Money View Post
        Wrong comparison. A better comparison would be a sword vs a knife. Both the pitbull and the wolf are deadly.

        Yes the wolf has every advantage over the pitbull and will probably win 2 times out of 3 but to say that no pitbull could ever beat any wolf is inaccurate.

        I've seen videos of pitbulls getting shot and battered multiple times and still keep coming. Also, it has a bigger mouth than the wolf and more psi force behind its bite. Pitbulls were bred for biting.

        It's not the size of the dog in a fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.
        Can you provide where you found this information?. I don't ever recall hearing that.

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        • Originally posted by A.K.A View Post
          Can you provide where you found this information?. I don't ever recall hearing that.
          It's the way their snouts have evolved. The elongated snout is for ripping and tearing while the shortened one gets more bite force.

          I saw it on discovery channel. They measured a mastiff's bite force vs a German Shepard and they found that the mastiff's bit force was 10x that of the German Shepard because of the way the mouth and head were shaped.

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          • Wild animals only kill for food. They only fight to mate or protect off-spring or territory and usually won't fight to a death in that case. They were not created for that reason and won't continue to fight when hurt...they will try to escape. The pitbull was specially breed by man...not nature...for a specific purpose different than that of any domesticated or wild animal. The fighting pitbull simply wants to fight for the sake of it...not because it has to. You don't even hear of other breeds of dogs used for dog-fighting anymore...there is a reason for this. Any other animal will try to run and survive when hurt...the pitbull doesn't even know how to do this...they will continue to fight long after it is exhausted or hurt. Even when playing ball in the heat...you have to be careful with the pitbull because they won't stop even after they reach a temperature that can cause heat stroke. It is a completely different animal. The wolf won't want to fight just for the sake of it and will run when it has a chance to.

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            • Originally posted by Javen View Post
              wolf will run if given the oppurtunity like wide open spaces...but do not underestimate a cornered animal...if a wolf got nowhere to run he would destroy a pitbull...




              pack of hounds hunting for moutain lion killed by wolves


              mountain lion wrecked by wolves
              Again, that will all be wolves in packs, we are talking 1 on 1

              A wolf will 100% lose to a cougar in a 1 on 1, the cougar is a superior predaor in every way except pack tactics.

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                • Originally posted by New England View Post
                  dogs don't fight like humans. most non - humans don't.

                  they try to minimize risk. you don't have a hospital to get your wounds stiched up. a deep one will eventually get infected, and you'll die. like you said, one big bite.

                  you can win the fight, but if you take a bit like that it's eventually all over.


                  if a group of dogs is "fighting" a bear they will exhaust it to death. boars too.

                  a smaller dog would try the same tactic with a larger dog. the "fight" could take all day, with much of the time spent at near death levels of exhaustion, but at a distance.
                  Yep, most animals will fight, then flight. Its built into them to survive another day. They know the score, survival is what counts. Obviously thats been selectively bred out of game bred pitbull.

                  A small pitbull fighting a larger one wouldn't think to try and exhaust it, it would get stuck in and think it was winning the whole time until it either quit or was killed and if it wasnt a fighting breed of dog, the chances are it would have given up in 2 minutes and carried on with its business

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                  • Originally posted by Even Money View Post
                    Wrong comparison. A better comparison would be a sword vs a knife. Both the pitbull and the wolf are deadly.

                    Yes the wolf has every advantage over the pitbull and will probably win 2 times out of 3 but to say that no pitbull could ever beat any wolf is inaccurate.

                    I've seen videos of pitbulls getting shot and battered multiple times and still keep coming. Also, it has a bigger mouth than the wolf and more psi force behind its bite. Pitbulls were bred for biting.

                    It's not the size of the dog in a fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.
                    Nah bud, i'll stick with my comparison.

                    Floyd and Wlad are both dangerous and the same applies, Floyd could beat Wlad, but as a betting man, i'm backing Wlad every time.

                    Same with a 140lb wolf and a 40lb dog. I'm backing the wolf even though the dog could win.

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                    • Originally posted by Even Money View Post
                      Breeding and evolution are the same thing. Breeding is just more specialized and controlled.
                      An argument can be made i suppose. I dont think breeding is more 'specialized', but is more 'forced'. Whatever fighting trait you are trying to breed into a domesticated dog, a wolf already has it naturally to a greater degree. It has the natural killing instinct, an instinct you can only try to force into a domestic dog by breeding.

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