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  • #41
    Trump caused all this division? and racial tension?

    I must have imagined riots in Baltimore and other places happening under Obama

    Trump is divisive apparently..

    It's the press/left which is incredibly divisive.. FROM DAY ONE.. these ****ers have not accepted this guy is actually president for the next 4 years.. Constantly attacking him over pretty bull****.. like 99% of the stuff CNN and co put out on Trump is negative

    Has everything Trump has done since coming to office been negative? Just the flip flopping on say North Korea should show you what the press is really about. The democrats/left is so bad now that they are pushing people who actually consider themselves liberals to the Republican party

    SO if people call Trump divisive.. The main stream media is just as bad if not worse

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    • #42
      Trump not devisive?? Every word is a lie. When the free press calls him out on it he calls them FAKE news. Nothing more devisive than this.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
        Trump not devisive?? Every word is a lie. When the free press calls him out on it he calls them FAKE news. Nothing more devisive than this.
        LOL case in point typical libtard.. "everything Trump says is a lie "

        Also politician a lying.. never seen that before
        Last edited by MOTHERDUCKER; 07-14-2018, 05:51 AM.

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        • #44
          Trump by far

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          • #45
            Please educate yourself. Trust me you are polluting your brain listening to the far right entertainers. They are not educating you. They are deceiving you. It's just one out and out lie after another from Trump. Complete fabrications. Certainly most politicians stretch the truth but Trump takes it to the lowest of the low. He understands his flock of mostly uneducated sheep will follow him no matter what. Like what Trump said himself....he could go to Times Square, shoot and kill someone, and he would not lose a single vote. For once in your life THINK about that statement.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
              Why???? Give reasons!
              Clinton was pretty bad, and Obama wasn’t great.
              “w” was an idiot.
              You should remember these two:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc_zwLwsUyY

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              • #47
                Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
                Please educate yourself. Trust me you are polluting your brain listening to the far right entertainers. They are not educating you. They are deceiving you. It's just one out and out lie after another from Trump. Complete fabrications. Certainly most politicians stretch the truth but Trump takes it to the lowest of the low. He understands his flock of mostly uneducated sheep will follow him no matter what. Like what Trump said himself....he could go to Times Square, shoot and kill someone, and he would not lose a single vote. For once in your life THINK about that statement.
                Trump always lies

                Talk about clutching at straws

                You the type of lib going round calling him a nazi who puts Mexican kids into concentrations camps also right?

                For once in your life THINK and stop spouting BS

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
                  Why?

                  He took over when we were losing 750k jobs a month, with a trillion and a half dollar deficit. His stimulus immediately turned losing 750k jobs every month to gaining 200k jobs every month. He decreased illegal immigration. Tens of millions of Americans have health insurance that didn't before. He cut the deficit by $800 billion a year.

                  Honestly, what are your reasons for saying Obama was a horrible president?
                  He attacked our fundamentals beliefs in the name of being inclusive and catering to the same nations who wants us destroyed, the very same nations that criticize our current administration for not taking refugees and let them run amok just like they're slowly destroying UK and Sweden.

                  It maybe too late to stop the Muslims from taking over the mentioned countries:



                  "We're no longer a Christian nation"

                  No need to attack us, not everyone is a Christian, we know...we also know your agenda.



                  Calling Islam: "One of the world's great religions"

                  Same religion that just sentenced a woman to 20 years for taking off her Hijab.

                  Iranian Woman sentenced to 20 Years in Prison for removing Hijab

                  https://www.bellanaija.com/2018/07/i...-prison-hijab/

                  http://time.com/5334187/iran-woman-p...dscarf-prison/

                  https://gellerreport.com/2018/07/ira...n-prison.html/

                  I don't agree with him endorsing this(for security reasons):

                  Letting trans students use bathroom which fit their gender identity

                  "Obama issued guidelines earlier this year directing public schools nationwide to allow students to use the bathroom and locker room that matches their gender identity, or risk losing funding".

                  http://www.newnownext.com/president-...-lgbt/08/2016/

                  Apparently, Trump is also guilty of this:

                  https://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...oom-they-want/

                  I thought it was blocked by a federal judge...haven't followed this lately.

                  The Iran deal

                  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...s-ways-under-/

                  ^^^Hell even Chuck Schumer criticize it. I won't quote Republicans for obvious reasons.

                  https://warontherocks.com/2015/10/fi...ally-bad-idea/

                  Overall, Obama was weak on the economy:

                  Obama’s Shocking Historically Weak Economic Performance

                  http://www.visionandvalues.org/2017/...c-performance/

                  https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/18...olicy-failure/

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/u...k-economy.html

                  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-america-weak/

                  Obamacare did help many and still does, I don't know the exact details of it so won't say anything about it.

                  Weak on human trafficking:



                  If he was as tough as people on the internet say he was on immigration, his numbers on human trafficking would have been higher.

                  Did he really helped the African-american community? Even left leaning site attacked him on this:

                  How Barack Obama Failed Black Americans

                  https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ricans/511358/

                  Quoting NBC:

                  Is Trump Right? A Look at What Obama's Done for Black Community

                  Unemployment -- According to the Department of Labor, when President Obama took office in January 2008, the Black unemployment rate was 12.7 percent. The best Black unemployment number during the Obama Administration so far was in June 2015 at 9.5 percent. The best Black unemployment rate during George Bush's presidency was 7.7 percent in August 2007. The worst number under Bush was 12.1 in December 2008. The worst Black unemployment under Obama was 16.8 in March 2011 -- a 28 year high -- according to the Department of Labor.

                  But the landscape is a bit more complicated than the numbers. In 2011, evidence of a so-called "Black Manession" emerged. In September 2014, reports on the Black female unemployment rate showed at 10.6 percent, the same as it was the year before. Many assert that hiring discrimination and the fact that many have left the job market all together are factors for high Black unemployment overall.

                  Poverty -- The poverty rate for African Americans has become worse over the past few years. It was 25 percent when President Bush left office. It rose to 28 percent in 2013 -- the most recent stat available. One out of three black children, 38 percent of all African American children, lived in poverty in 2013, as reported by PEW on July 14. Overall, there are more people living in poverty in the U.S. than at other time in U.S. history at 45 million people.


                  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/...merica-n403881

                  There are a lot more reasons on why I dislike him.

                  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Obama. I really think despite all his faults, he's a cool dude.

                  I don't think of him as a leader, but as someone who sacrificed a lot to achieve a false sense of security/peace when in reality is the opposite.

                  I can't confirm this because it is my personal observation of seeing past videos, but I believe the leaders of the rest of the world didn't respect him and thought of him being a weak individual.

                  He probably did what he thought was right.

                  He had 8 years, didn't convinced me, but hey he tried

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                  • #49
                    Bathhouse Barry by far.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
                      Larry is speaking wisdom here, people who are saying Trump is the worst are grade A buffoons.

                      The worst in my lifetime has been Bush Jr. The best so far has been Clinton, and second best thus far in his presidency is Trump.

                      Clinton
                      Trump
                      Obama
                      Bush Jr.

                      And I was too young to have been affected by George SR.
                      I agree wholeheartedly by Larry's definition. The best in my lifetime has been:

                      Reagan
                      Clinton

                      There was relative peace and prosperity when those 2 were President.

                      The worst:

                      W. Bush
                      Obama

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