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  • #91
    Most of them were kids who were crossing the border by themselves. They were not taken from their parents.

    That is a simple fact. Obama deported more people than any other president and had illegal immigration drop quite sharply.

    Tearing toddlers and infants away from their parents, with no way to reunite them, is what even most Republicans is inhumane, evil, and wrong. And apparently Trump agreed.

    When you have to lie and mislead by saying Obama did the same thing, when he didn't, is when you know you have lost. Hoping everyone will let your lies slip on by.

    Trump admitted his own policy was evil and he repeatedly said he didn't want it. But when he tried to blame Democrats, like you, even far right Republican Congressmen and Senators demanded he stop the policy he created. And he did.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      I assumed your post was sarcasm.

      I hope so.


      If not, you are misinformed. The policy of separating children started with Trump clearly. Luckily he is doing away with it now, and hopefully he does right by those who were already separated due to his policies.
      No it didn’t start with trump. It was already a written law that’s been on the books since 2008. Trump just imposed said law to its fullest extent. Hence “zero tolerance” to exploit how ****ty the immigration laws are and how nobody wants to do anything about it.

      Do you think trump just wrote the laws or made them up on the fly or something?

      How would a law like that get through congress under trump? Hell, he can barely get the lunch menu approved through Congress cause the damn dems go against everything outta spite.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        I assumed your post was sarcasm.

        I hope so.


        If not, you are misinformed. The policy of separating children started with Trump clearly. Luckily he is doing away with it now, and hopefully he does right by those who were already separated due to his policies.
        I notice he didn't reply. These people hate actual facts. When confronted with them, they simply disappear.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post
          They actually don’t. It’s kinda weird cause I figured the same thing.


          The census claims you as white,,, cause you love trump. Admit it.
          lmfao, weird everywhite boy I met that was half always claimed to be Mexicans etc, even your shocked so you know what it is the majority that are claim to be Mexicans, but yea cool cool.

          and .........................

          LOOK AT IT
          THIS IS YOUR FUTURE
          YOUR DAUGHTERS FUTURE
          YOUR SONS FUTURE!








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          • #95
            Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post
            No it didn’t start with trump. It was already a written law that’s been on the books since 2008. Trump just imposed said law to its fullest extent. Hence “zero tolerance” to exploit how ****ty the immigration laws are and how nobody wants to do anything about it.

            Do you think trump just wrote the laws or made them up on the fly or something?

            How would a law like that get through congress under trump? Hell, he can barely get the lunch menu approved through Congress cause the damn dems go against everything outta spite.
            What do you have against facts?


            CLAIM
            A "law to separate families" was enacted prior to April 2018, and the federal government is powerless not to enforce it.
            RATING
            False
            ORIGIN
            In mid-June 2018, a number of readers asked about a “law to separate families,” primarily whether the purported legislation was passed by President Barack Obama, President Bill Clinton, or “the Democrats”:
            Were children separated from their parents as they crossed the boarder into the USA under the Obama administration?

            We are repeatedly informed that the separation of illegal immigrant children from the family is a policy created by the Obama administration. Is this true or is it just Mr. Sessions policy.

            Did President Obama’s administration remove children from their parents when they came to the U.S. illegally? Someone on FaceBook is saying this and I want to see if this is true.

            NEWSWEEK: OBAMA HELD MORE THAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN IN SHELTERS COMPARED TO TRUMP WHITE HOUSE

            Did Bill Clinton enact a law that made it legal to separate migrants from their children. We’re migrants forced to surrender their children during the Obama administration?

            THE LAW TO SEPARATE PARENTS FROM THEIR CHILDREN WHEN THEY CROSS THE BORDER ILLEGALLY WAS PASSED IN 1997. NOW IT’S A PROBLEM?
            Although the questions were varied, their underlying question essentially was the same: Whether a so-called “law to separate parents from children” existed before the Trump administration. In some versions, President Bill Clinton’s administration passed such a law, and in other iterations, President Barack Obama detained twice as many children separated from their parents during his presidency.
            On 5 June 2018, Trump attributed the policy to Democrats in general:



            There is no federal law that stipulates that children and parents be separated at the border, no matter how families entered the United States. An increase in child detainees separated from parents stemmed directly from a change in enforcement policy repeatedly announced by Sessions in April and May 2018, under which adults (with or without children) are criminally prosecuted for attempting to enter the United States:
            The “zero-tolerance” policy he announced [in May 2018] sees adults who try to cross the border, many planning to seek asylum, being placed in custody and facing criminal prosecution for illegal entry.
            As a result, hundreds of minors are now being housed in detention centres, and kept away from their parents.
            Over a recent six-week period, nearly 2,000 children were separated from their parents after illegally crossing the border, figures released on [15 June 2018].
            [Attorney General] Sessions said those entering the US irregularly would be criminally prosecuted, a change to a long-standing policy of charging most of those crossing for the first time with a misdemeanour offence.
            We addressed the “law to separate children” in a fact check about a purported statement made by Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Sessions did not make the statement attributed to him, but he did make a series of remarks in early April 2018 about a new border initiative involving the separation of children from parents at border crossings:

            https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wa...s-passed-1997/

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            • #96
              Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post
              No it didn’t start with trump. It was already a written law that’s been on the books since 2008. Trump just imposed said law to its fullest extent. Hence “zero tolerance” to exploit how ****ty the immigration laws are and how nobody wants to do anything about it.

              Do you think trump just wrote the laws or made them up on the fly or something?

              How would a law like that get through congress under trump? Hell, he can barely get the lunch menu approved through Congress cause the damn dems go against everything outta spite.
              Some other facts, that you do not like.

              more immigrants were forcibly removed from the United States under Obama than any other president. More than 2.8 million undocumented immigrants have been deported over the last eight years

              https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pr...ration-n703656

              during Obama’s time in office, the number of people living in the U.S. illegally has actually declined, according to independent estimates by demographers.
              The Pew Research Center estimated the number at 11.7 million in 2008, and most recently at 11.3 million in 2014, a decline of roughly 400,000, or 3.4 percent.
              And the Center for Migration Studies estimated that the drop has been even more pronounced, going from 12 million in 2008 to 10.9 million in 2014. That would be a decrease of 1.1 million, or 9 percent.

              https://www.factcheck.org/2016/04/ob...l-2016-update/

              President Obama urged Congress on Tuesday to quickly provide almost $4 billion to confront a surge of young migrants from Central America crossing the border into Texas, calling it “an urgent humanitarian situation.”...The president said he needed the money to set up new detention facilities, conduct more aerial surveillance and hire immigration judges and Border Patrol agents

              https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/u...on-crisis.html

              From 2013:

              "Yes, the number of Border Patrol agents is at an all-time high," said Rey Koslowski, an expert on the border and an associate professor of political science and public policy at the University at Albany.

              http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...r-obama-previ/

              Also, this began with Bill Clinton, who was president in 1996:

              The trend toward increased deportations began with the 1996 passage of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act

              https://www.npr.org/2016/08/31/49196...migration-laws

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
                What do you have against facts?


                CLAIM
                A "law to separate families" was enacted prior to April 2018, and the federal government is powerless not to enforce it.
                RATING
                False
                ORIGIN
                In mid-June 2018, a number of readers asked about a “law to separate families,” primarily whether the purported legislation was passed by President Barack Obama, President Bill Clinton, or “the Democrats”:
                Were children separated from their parents as they crossed the boarder into the USA under the Obama administration?

                We are repeatedly informed that the separation of illegal immigrant children from the family is a policy created by the Obama administration. Is this true or is it just Mr. Sessions policy.

                Did President Obama’s administration remove children from their parents when they came to the U.S. illegally? Someone on FaceBook is saying this and I want to see if this is true.

                NEWSWEEK: OBAMA HELD MORE THAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN IN SHELTERS COMPARED TO TRUMP WHITE HOUSE

                Did Bill Clinton enact a law that made it legal to separate migrants from their children. We’re migrants forced to surrender their children during the Obama administration?

                THE LAW TO SEPARATE PARENTS FROM THEIR CHILDREN WHEN THEY CROSS THE BORDER ILLEGALLY WAS PASSED IN 1997. NOW IT’S A PROBLEM?
                Although the questions were varied, their underlying question essentially was the same: Whether a so-called “law to separate parents from children” existed before the Trump administration. In some versions, President Bill Clinton’s administration passed such a law, and in other iterations, President Barack Obama detained twice as many children separated from their parents during his presidency.
                On 5 June 2018, Trump attributed the policy to Democrats in general:



                There is no federal law that stipulates that children and parents be separated at the border, no matter how families entered the United States. An increase in child detainees separated from parents stemmed directly from a change in enforcement policy repeatedly announced by Sessions in April and May 2018, under which adults (with or without children) are criminally prosecuted for attempting to enter the United States:
                The “zero-tolerance” policy he announced [in May 2018] sees adults who try to cross the border, many planning to seek asylum, being placed in custody and facing criminal prosecution for illegal entry.
                As a result, hundreds of minors are now being housed in detention centres, and kept away from their parents.
                Over a recent six-week period, nearly 2,000 children were separated from their parents after illegally crossing the border, figures released on [15 June 2018].
                [Attorney General] Sessions said those entering the US irregularly would be criminally prosecuted, a change to a long-standing policy of charging most of those crossing for the first time with a misdemeanour offence.
                We addressed the “law to separate children” in a fact check about a purported statement made by Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Sessions did not make the statement attributed to him, but he did make a series of remarks in early April 2018 about a new border initiative involving the separation of children from parents at border crossings:

                https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wa...s-passed-1997/
                Thanks for proving my point. These were the laws written, that’s what’s on the books. Separation of children from parents is what happens when said parents don’t obey the law. It’s not pretty. But the law is the law. Since when did it become okay to break them?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
                  Some other facts, that you do not like.

                  more immigrants were forcibly removed from the United States under Obama than any other president. More than 2.8 million undocumented immigrants have been deported over the last eight years

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pr...ration-n703656

                  during Obama’s time in office, the number of people living in the U.S. illegally has actually declined, according to independent estimates by demographers.
                  The Pew Research Center estimated the number at 11.7 million in 2008, and most recently at 11.3 million in 2014, a decline of roughly 400,000, or 3.4 percent.
                  And the Center for Migration Studies estimated that the drop has been even more pronounced, going from 12 million in 2008 to 10.9 million in 2014. That would be a decrease of 1.1 million, or 9 percent.

                  https://www.factcheck.org/2016/04/ob...l-2016-update/

                  President Obama urged Congress on Tuesday to quickly provide almost $4 billion to confront a surge of young migrants from Central America crossing the border into Texas, calling it “an urgent humanitarian situation.”...The president said he needed the money to set up new detention facilities, conduct more aerial surveillance and hire immigration judges and Border Patrol agents

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/u...on-crisis.html

                  From 2013:

                  "Yes, the number of Border Patrol agents is at an all-time high," said Rey Koslowski, an expert on the border and an associate professor of political science and public policy at the University at Albany.

                  http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...r-obama-previ/

                  Also, this began with Bill Clinton, who was president in 1996:

                  The trend toward increased deportations began with the 1996 passage of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act

                  https://www.npr.org/2016/08/31/49196...migration-laws
                  Why wouldn’t I like this? Im sorta indifferent on it, tbh. Again, I have no problem with legal immigration and welcome it.

                  This is just another example of our broken immigration laws. So, thank you again.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post
                    Why wouldn’t I like this? Im sorta indifferent on it, tbh. Again, I have no problem with legal immigration and welcome it.

                    This is just another example of our broken immigration laws. So, thank you again.
                    Wow, I didn't think you would agree that Obama did more to stop illegal immigration than Trump.

                    I've never convinced anyone that easily before.

                    And, yes, the first one specifically said there is no law requiring children be separated from their parents. Thank you for finally admitting that.

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                    • Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
                      Wow, I didn't think you would agree that Obama did more to stop illegal immigration than Trump.

                      I've never convinced anyone that easily before.

                      And, yes, the first one specifically said there is no law requiring children be separated from their parents. Thank you for finally admitting that.
                      I’m not convinced of anything. The article you posted has been common knowledge so you’re telling me nothing new.


                      What do you think happens when a parent commits a crime and there’s nobody there to take the children. I can’t believe you could be this naive.

                      Maybe we just turn the kid loose on his own then, right? That’s your solution? Letting a kid finish his trek into America solo? Wow...ok

                      For further context. If you or I go commit a crime and we have our kids, what do you think happens with them? They go into protective services if there’s no family there to get them. But this is brand new..2018 doe...trump doe...

                      Again, fix the immigration laws so there’s an easier path to citizenship

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