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  • #41
    Originally posted by Monaco Slim View Post
    You're right, the country's screwed either way.
    Getting out of the EU is necessary but not sufficient in itself.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Virgil Caine View Post
      The global capitalists are the enemies of the workers. So it is no surprise that the governments they own act against their people.

      And the point about Mexicans had to do with the fact that they buy corn flower, jalepones, cilantro, and a large piece of meat, with which to feed their family of 10 for a week. I.e., people who come from less tend to be more resourceful and get by on less. Hence, they effectively have a lower required standard of living (and lower expectations of pay, for this and other reasons).

      This is further bad for native workers, and good for employers of such immigrants.
      That's why I always say that it's impossible to have a nationalist society without some form of socialism. The reason why the right wingers in Western Europe repeatedly failed is because they supported capitalism and America. They want to be against immigrants but don't mind the capitalist system which is why they never had any real solutions to the problem.

      On the other hand it's also impossible to have socialism without some form of nationalism. This is why the left in Western Europe has become nothing but the lackeys of the capitalist elite as well because they don't want to accept nationalism and go against their own people, supporting concepts that work in favor of capitalism: "multiculturalism", mass immigration, ultra-individualism (things like LGBT fall under that), globalism, materialism and consumerist culture etc.

      As long as the liberal democratic capitalist system isn't challenged, mass immigration to rich Western countries will continue.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by RedZmaja View Post
        That's why I always say that it's impossible to have a nationalist society without some form of socialism. The reason why the right wingers in Western Europe repeatedly failed is because they supported capitalism and America. They want to be against immigrants but don't mind the capitalist system which is why they never had any real solutions to the problem.

        On the other hand it's also impossible to have socialism without some form of nationalism. This is why the left in Western Europe has become nothing but the lackeys of the capitalist elite as well because they don't want to accept nationalism and go against their own people, supporting concepts that work in favor of capitalism: "multiculturalism", mass immigration, ultra-individualism (things like LGBT fall under that), globalism, materialism and consumerist culture etc.

        As long as the liberal democratic capitalist system isn't challenged, mass immigration to rich Western countries will continue.

        Nonsense, those who supported capitalism and America post WWII, today are the strongest economies in the world. Germany, Britain, France, Italy all took the capitalist approach with America's lead, and all of them today are top 10 economies and military powers, with American being the #1 of them all.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
          Nonsense, those who supported capitalism and America post WWII, today are the strongest economies in the world. Germany, Britain, France, Italy all took the capitalist approach with America's lead, and all of them today are top 10 economies and military powers, with American being the #1 of them all.
          With China at #2.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Virgil Caine View Post
            With China at #2.
            China is probably the best example of what capitalism can do for a country.

            At the turn of the 2000's China allowed capitalism to flourish and today it is an economic powerhouse, where as before it was complete ****hole under its complete centralized government planning.

            http://www.businessinsider.com/how-c...talist-2015-10

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            • #46
              Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
              China is probably the best example of what capitalism can do for a country.

              At the turn of the 2000's China allowed capitalism to flourish and today it is an economic powerhouse, where as before it was complete ****hole under its complete centralized government planning.

              http://www.businessinsider.com/how-c...talist-2015-10
              Capitalism is a system of production based on private ownership of capital.

              The Chinese government has a hand in everything.

              The sheer amount of employment wouldn't be possible without direct government employment of millions of workers in construction.

              China is also still unapologeticly Marxist, and socialist.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by RedZmaja View Post
                On the other hand it's also impossible to have socialism without some form of nationalism.
                So let me get this straight: You're advocating "National Socialism"?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
                  China is probably the best example of what capitalism can do for a country.

                  At the turn of the 2000's China allowed capitalism to flourish and today it is an economic powerhouse, where as before it was complete ****hole under its complete centralized government planning.

                  http://www.businessinsider.com/how-c...talist-2015-10
                  Originally posted by Virgil Caine View Post
                  Capitalism is a system of production based on private ownership of capital.

                  The Chinese government has a hand in everything.

                  The sheer amount of employment wouldn't be possible without direct government employment of millions of workers in construction.

                  China is also still unapologeticly Marxist, and socialist.
                  Depending on who you ask China's economy is classified either as a Socialist Market Economy or as State Capitalism.

                  Either way you wanna call it, it involves a **** ton of direct government involvement that would be unprecedented in capitalist countries. Dishonest imo to not refer to it as a socialist economy.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
                    Nonsense, those who supported capitalism and America post WWII, today are the strongest economies in the world. Germany, Britain, France, Italy all took the capitalist approach with America's lead, and all of them today are top 10 economies and military powers, with American being the #1 of them all.
                    Who the hell cares about having a strong economy? It's better to be poor and preserve you national honor than be rich and end up like Germany or Sweden.

                    I couldn't care less about money as long as I can get the basic things I need. Back in socialist Eastern Europe we had everything we needed. Sports were valued highly, strong military, the national ideal was strong men who could defend their nation. There was a lot of solidarity among people. Maybe the economies weren't as effective but at the end of the day people got food on the table. So you wouldn't have useless trash like iphones, who cares?

                    We also had a healthy birth rate. Look at what happened after socialism was replaced:



                    Germany and Italy have horrible military btw. Socialist countries had a much stronger military. France and Britain have something resembling an army but the rest of Europe not really (bar Russia of course).

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by StarshipTrooper View Post
                      So let me get this straight: You're advocating "National Socialism"?
                      That word has negative connotations because of the historic German connections. I want a pure Slavic ideology based on our tradition and our nationalism. The main thing should be nationalism, economy could be adapted to anything as long as it serves the national community and solidarity which would inevitably mean some sort of "socialism".

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