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  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    Repeating it doesn't make it true dude.
    Yes, I told you that earlier.

    Nice mimic.

    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    They were involved until McConnell put pressure on those involved to get out because he wanted it to fail and make Obama a one term President. The article I posted details this.
    All conjecture, in terms of the why part.

    The fact is I asserted they were locked out of meetings. And that is 100% fact. Quit playing games and accept the reality and source citations.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      You are slightly mistaken:

      https://resources.ehealthinsurance.c...e-care-act-aca

      November 7, 2009: In the House of Representatives, 219 Democrats and one Republican vote for the Affordable Health Care for America Act, and 39 Democrats and 176 Republicans vote against it.
      That House bill passed with one R wasn't the final version.

      It went to the Senate, where they used budget reconciliation and sent it back to the House.

      There, according to your source:

      March 11, 2010: Now lacking the 60th vote needed to pass the bill, Senate Democrats decide to use budget reconciliation in order to get to one bill approved by the House and the Senate. The use of budget reconciliation only requires 51 Senators to vote in favor of the bill in order for it to go to the president’s desk for signature.

      March 21, 2010: The Senate’s version of the health-care plan is approved by the House in a 219-212 vote. All Republicans and 34 Democrats vote against the plan.


      So thanks for proving my claim for me. It was 100% Team D, and 0% Team R.

      Just as I said.

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      • Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
        That House bill passed with one R wasn't the final version.

        It went to the Senate, where they used budget reconciliation and sent it back to the House.

        There, according to your source:

        March 11, 2010: Now lacking the 60th vote needed to pass the bill, Senate Democrats decide to use budget reconciliation in order to get to one bill approved by the House and the Senate. The use of budget reconciliation only requires 51 Senators to vote in favor of the bill in order for it to go to the president’s desk for signature.

        March 21, 2010: The Senate’s version of the health-care plan is approved by the House in a 219-212 vote. All Republicans and 34 Democrats vote against the plan.


        So thanks for proving my claim for me. It was 100% Team D, and 0% Team R.

        Just as I said.
        I said you were only slightly mistaken for a reason. My point was to get you to see that there was bi partisan discussion and support in the beginning. That ended when Sen Reid pushed it through without including Republicans.

        There was Republican involvement and support for the initial ACA. The House, as you highlighted, didn't get one Republican vote on the Senate's version of the health care plan, which wasn't the same as the initial plan.

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        • Get ready for even higher Obamacare premiums.

          Top health insurance companies in numerous states are looking to hike premiums by double-digits – some by roughly 30 percent or more – for ObamaCare plans in 2018, according to newly released figures that could light a fire under stalled efforts on Capitol Hill to fix the program.

          Source, full article:
          http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...are-plans.html

          But it's working out great doe!

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          • Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
            Get ready for even higher Obamacare premiums.

            Top health insurance companies in numerous states are looking to hike premiums by double-digits – some by roughly 30 percent or more – for ObamaCare plans in 2018, according to newly released figures that could light a fire under stalled efforts on Capitol Hill to fix the program.

            Source, full article:
            http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...are-plans.html

            But it's working out great doe!
            Full article below:
            Top health insurance companies in numerous states are looking to hike premiums by double-digits – some by roughly 30 percent or more – for ObamaCare plans in 2018, according to newly released figures that could light a fire under stalled efforts on Capitol Hill to fix the program.

            “A lot of us have lost focus on the fact that the system we have doesn’t work,” White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney told “Fox & Friends” on Wednesday, referring to the proposed premium hikes.

            The Wall Street Journal reported that major insurers in Idaho, West Virginia, South Carolina, Iowa and Wyoming are pitching premium hikes averaging 30 percent or higher.

            Other states also could see double-digit hikes, including New Mexico, Tennessee and Texas – while elsewhere, insurers are eyeing smaller increases.

            The requests are preliminary and could change before insurers strike 2018 agreements with federal officials in the fall.

            But they underscore concerns about Affordable Care Act plans becoming increasingly unaffordable, as Republicans struggle to come up with an ObamaCare replacement bill that can pass Congress.

            Their latest legislation – the so-called “skinny repeal” – failed by a single vote in the Senate last week, leaving lawmakers split over whether to “move on” and tackle issues like tax reform or regroup and try again. President Trump is urging Republicans not to give up, and even some Democrats have started to float ideas for shoring up the law, without scrapping it.

            “I do think it’s important that they continue to work on health care,” Mulvaney said. “ObamaCare’s still broken. It was just as broken today as it was last week; in fact, more so.”

            However, while the premium hikes could energize GOP efforts to upend the Affordable Care Act, they also could fuel Democrats’ criticism over how Republicans are handling to repeal/replace debate.

            The Journal reported that insurers are concerned about Trump’s threat to halt payments to the industry that in turn help bring down costs, as well as whether Republicans will continue to enforce the individual mandate to buy insurance.

            According to the Journal, one insurer in Montana linked the bulk of its proposed 23 percent increase to those two concerns.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-02-2017, 12:10 PM.

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            • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              I said you were only slightly mistaken for a reason. My point was to get you to see that there was bi partisan discussion and support in the beginning. That ended when Sen Reid pushed it through without including Republicans.
              ONE person, and in a huge D district isn't bi-partisanship Dunn.

              The only reason that an R got that seat was the incumbent D (William Jefferson) was either facing serious charges (bribery, etc) or was already in prison so an R won in a huge D district.

              He wasn't re-elected. A D won, and this was before the vote on the Senate bill, hence the final bill not getting ANY Republican votes.

              As I said, Obamacare is 100% Team D's baby. But for whatever reason, you had to argue that obvious fact.

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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                The Journal reported that insurers are concerned about Trump’s threat to halt payments to the industry that in turn help bring down costs, as well as whether Republicans will continue to enforce the individual mandate to buy insurance.
                Yup, I saw that.

                What that says is that without corporate welfare going to the big insurance companies, premiums go way up.

                So Team D passed a plan totally reliant on corporate welfare. Genius.

                Where in the hell were we told that was going to be the case?????

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                • Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
                  Yup, I saw that.

                  What that says is that without corporate welfare going to the big insurance companies, premiums go way up.

                  So Team D passed a plan totally reliant on corporate welfare. Genius.

                  Where in the hell were we told that was going to be the case?????
                  Its not that simple. The facts are below.

                  https://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare...ance-premiums/

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                  • Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
                    Ah, still confident.

                    I love it!!

                    Speaking of, how's the Russian collusion nothing burger Team D was banking on to get Trump impeached?

                    Your ban date approaches.....

                    Your ban date is waiting to happen 24/7 BWAHAHAHA...

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                    • Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
                      You can thank Bush for some of the intel used to find the guy.

                      And then Obama stopped using that very means of interrogation. Genius.

                      The other 'accomplishments' were just spending more taxpayer money. A ******ed monkey can blow tax money.

                      Is that really all you have for accomplisments; him using Bush's intel and him spending more taxpayer money??? Really??
                      Was Bush from a different country and government?......

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