i wish i was in IT or some industry you get paid the same working from home 100%

[4truth]

I don't have the self discipline to work from home except on projects that interest me personally.

My wife works from home, she's got the right mindset for it.

[IceTrayDaGang]

i dont have any motivation to get work done if i am working from home... it's too easy to get distracted... i can see this as a benefit if you are just doing meetings all day on teams but if you have to work work then i have to be on site or i will never get any work done.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Better is what Leicester (show host) does - which is own his own business AND work from home.

IT is one of the worst careers because you don't control your hours or your pay. You're a slave to the rhythm. Working from home makes no difference when they force you to be active on Teams for a full 8 hours minimum AND require you to work oncall rotations for no additional pay.

Working for someone else is like calling somebody else "daddy".

[Willy Wanker]

Whether I'm at home or in the office, I have no motivation to work either way.

[Brother Mouzone]

IT is one of the worst careers because you don't control your hours or your pay. You're a slave to the rhythm. Working from home makes no difference when they force you to be active on Teams for a full 8 hours minimum AND require you to work oncall rotations for no additional pay.

Where do you live ?, I work in IT and this has not been my experience at all ...........

[Combat Talk Radio]

Where do you live ?, I work in IT and this has not been my experience at all ...........

In the United States, every IT work minus low level help desk is a salaried worker.

https://www.bamboohr.com/resources/h...aried-employee


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The other problem is, the law doesn't require a timesheet because the whole point of FLSA was that employers lobbied saying "it's too hard to track their time, we can't know how many hours we need from them" and the government bowed.

Which meant that employers can force workers to work oncall, which basically is a 24-hour shift, but they're not required to pay any more money if the person is making at least $46k/year or something close.

AND almost all employers still force you to fill out a timesheet and force you to make it equal 8 hours a day. They do that so they have documentation that they're not overworking you when they actually are. Because under FLSA, you're supposed to be paid for a full week if you worked just one hour for that week. Many jobs don't require a lot of effort per day.

So what happens is, people will sit browsing Twitter or YouTube for 6 hours a day and only work one because they're not allowed to just come in and work 2 hours or whatever.

A lot of employers went so far as to have policies that force you to be active on Slack or Teams or whatever as "proof" that you're "working". Which created a whole new industry for devices called jigglers that move the mouse to fake it and make it seem like you're active when you're really slacking off because you don't actually have any work.

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Back when I was working for someone, I turned in a timesheet of 10 hours because I was new and there wasn't anything to do yet. I got harassed by HR questioning why the timesheet was less than 40 - I'm telling them, because I didn't need to work 40, there's nothing to do. They wouldn't let it go. So I had to make something up. That's how bad it is.


As far as pay: companies do what's referred to as compa-ratio. It basically says, pull the salary range for comparable jobs in that state, and choose the median. That's what people get offered. The problem is, they should be looking at nationwide pay scale, not local state, because different states have different rates based on population. So a low population state like North Dakota or Minnesota offers garbage pay even though they're nicer to live in, compared to California which is hell on Earth.

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The other thing to consider is supply and demand. Companies started making job titles generic (i.e. "Analyst") instead of specialist (i.e. "IBM Mainframe Engineer"). The reason is so that negotiations for pay lean in favor of the employer. If you're no different in title from some other schlub, how can you command higher pay even though you've got 20 years in the game vs. their 2?

[Zaroku]

Nice be funny

I just pray lot and srugglr daily

[Brother Mouzone]

In the United States, every IT work minus low level help desk is a salaried worker.

https://www.bamboohr.com/resources/h...aried-employee


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The other problem is, the law doesn't require a timesheet because the whole point of FLSA was that employers lobbied saying "it's too hard to track their time, we can't know how many hours we need from them" and the government bowed.

Which meant that employers can force workers to work oncall, which basically is a 24-hour shift, but they're not required to pay any more money if the person is making at least $46k/year or something close.

AND almost all employers still force you to fill out a timesheet and force you to make it equal 8 hours a day. They do that so they have documentation that they're not overworking you when they actually are. Because under FLSA, you're supposed to be paid for a full week if you worked just one hour for that week. Many jobs don't require a lot of effort per day.

So what happens is, people will sit browsing Twitter or YouTube for 6 hours a day and only work one because they're not allowed to just come in and work 2 hours or whatever.

A lot of employers went so far as to have policies that force you to be active on Slack or Teams or whatever as "proof" that you're "working". Which created a whole new industry for devices called jigglers that move the mouse to fake it and make it seem like you're active when you're really slacking off because you don't actually have any work.

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Back when I was working for someone, I turned in a timesheet of 10 hours because I was new and there wasn't anything to do yet. I got harassed by HR questioning why the timesheet was less than 40 - I'm telling them, because I didn't need to work 40, there's nothing to do. They wouldn't let it go. So I had to make something up. That's how bad it is.

Me too, FL to be specific and again this has not been my experience , but I have only worked at 2 companies..........

[Combat Talk Radio]

Me too, FL to be specific and again this has not been my experience , but I have only worked at 2 companies..........

Unless you're at some small companies that don't care, your experience is singular to you.

https://www.startpage.com/do/search?...5vbmUifQ%3D%3D

Countless stories over time about the issues called out. It's highly common. Especially the higher the pay rate.

[Brother Mouzone]

Unless you're at some small companies that don't care, your experience is singular to you.

https://www.startpage.com/do/search?...5vbmUifQ%3D%3D

Countless stories over time about the issues called out. It's highly common. Especially the higher the pay rate.

Perhaps , I work in IT for a big company that is not a tech company .