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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostI don't think that there is any evidence of a conspiracy that rewards scientists with funding for "towing the party line". In fact it would surprise me greatly if there weren't great rewards on offer from industry for holding the opposite view.
The fact is that there is an overwhelming scientific consensus that a) the earth is warming up and b) it is being heavily influenced by the activities of the human race.
Here is a graph showing the trend in average global temperatures over the last hundred years or so:
Pointing out relative decreases in global temperature over a decade is ignoring the overall trend which suggests that global temperatures are increasing over time.
It's very possible that the period of this cycle can easily be over a couple hundred years without human influence, you jerk. Are you a scientist? What is your degree in?Last edited by FloydsEra; 02-16-2009, 08:04 PM.
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Originally posted by Stuntman! View PostAnyone that isn't a meteorologist or a physicist should shut their frickin mouths. STFU!
This is a topic for science majors, not dopey liberal arts jerks
It's very possible that the period of this cycle can easily be over a couple hundred years without human influence, you jerk.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostSo you don't have an opinion on the issue?
Science "majors"?! You mean Science major undergraduates? If you really want to appeal to authority then at least set the bar as high as post doctoral researchers.
It's possible. But the scientific consensus is that it is part of a trend in warming which had beginnings which coincided with the onset of human agriculture and has been exacerbated by industry.
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Originally posted by Stuntman! View Postsources, please. you fudgepacker
It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conten.../306/5702/1686
http://royalsociety.org/document.asp?latest=1&id=3222
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostDoran and Zimmerman (2009) Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Illinois.
http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conten.../306/5702/1686
http://royalsociety.org/document.asp?latest=1&id=3222
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostIt's possible. But it's likely that by that time it will be far too late. There's an obvious problem today. It wouldn't be prudent to wait just in case we discover new measuring techniques that suggest we were wrong all along.
I mean the predictions of the warming model (increased volatility and deeper extremes of local weather) are already manifesting. As you said Montreal is experiencing the coldest winter in 100 years.
I do not dispute cases of extreme weather.. Only Man's role in it..and That is born from the fact.. that through out history.. there are literally 1000's of examples of extreme weather..
The way people talk now.. it's like Hurricanes.. or droughts are some new phenomena.. The only thing that has changed in the last 30 years is an increase in words like " Disaster" "destruction" "Terror" "catastrophic" In the headlines.. This is proven ... SO what is extreme these days.. is the Propaganda
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostI don't think that there is any evidence of a conspiracy that rewards scientists with funding for "towing the party line". In fact it would surprise me greatly if there weren't great rewards on offer from industry for holding the opposite view.
The fact is that there is an overwhelming scientific consensus that a) the earth is warming up and b) it is being heavily influenced by the activities of the human race.
Here is a graph showing the trend in average global temperatures over the last hundred years or so:
Pointing out relative decreases in global temperature over a decade is ignoring the overall trend which suggests that global temperatures are increasing over time.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostI don't think that there is any evidence of a conspiracy that rewards scientists with funding for "towing the party line". In fact it would surprise me greatly if there weren't great rewards on offer from industry for holding the opposite view.
The fact is that there is an overwhelming scientific consensus that a) the earth is warming up and b) it is being heavily influenced by the activities of the human race.
Here is a graph showing the trend in average global temperatures over the last hundred years or so:
Pointing out relative decreases in global temperature over a decade is ignoring the overall trend which suggests that global temperatures are increasing over time.
Maybe you found Jesus and think the earth is only 6,000 years old.
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