Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

How To Get To Heaven When You Die

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
    The issue I have with biblical accounts is that why isn't God still dictating his agenda to modern people? The bible is outdated and there lies many contradictions and situations that just don't apply to the 21th century. Why isn't God giving us guidance for this new technological modern world we live in?
    It is because of FREEWILL. It is God's gift to man and He will not countermand it except on the most EXTREME circumstance. For example widespread sin and atheism.

    The Bible on the other hand isn't meant to be taken literally in all its passages. The wisdom needed to understand God's words in the Bible is very limited in man therefore man has the tendency to interpret the Bible erroneously which ultimately lead to confusion.

    As for guidance, it may seem as a surprise to you but the illumination of conscience is near. It is an event where God will reveal himself simultaneously to all mankind. Every man will see the state of his soul, the sins that he made and to those evil men (freemasons, illuminati bilderberg, heads of the EU, etc) will see what's in store for them in hell unless they repent.

    The fact is sir we are in the endtimes. There is a reason why war is so widespread, why a collapse of western economic society is inevitable in a few years, why there is talk of a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. I'll assume you already know of the RFID chip which in truth is the 666 mark of the beast. This has been foretold thousands of years in advance to warn man. The time is now for man to throw away the foolishness of atheism and sin and go back to God.
    Last edited by mokmokv2; 11-21-2012, 03:48 PM.

    Comment


    • Originally posted by mokmokv2 View Post
      The bible yes. But there are also thousands upon thousands of testimonies of those who died or near-death and saw heaven and was given the chance to go back and spread the word.

      You know the saying "To see is to believe". I happen to personally know of one such example where a kid from our neighborhood died in the hospital because of a disease (his heart stopped beating and the doctor gave up for dead on the kid). He was probably 5-6 years old that time. It was nothing short of a miracle.

      The doctor was already out of the room when the attending nurse suddenly grasped the defibrillator and administered on the kid. The kid woke up and afterwards told his parents that he went to heaven and saw St. Peter.

      St. Peter instructed him to go back since "it was not yet his time".

      When you personally encounter things like this it has a tendency to shake every belief system one has.
      The issue I have with biblical accounts is that why isn't God still dictating his agenda to modern people? The bible is outdated and there lies many contradictions and situations that just don't apply to the 21th century. Why isn't God giving us guidance for this new technological modern world we live in?

      Comment


      • Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
        The issue I have with biblical accounts is that why isn't God still dictating his agenda to modern people? The bible is outdated and there lies many contradictions and situations that just don't apply to the 21th century. Why isn't God giving us guidance for this new technological modern world we live in?
        On the contrary God has been communicating constantly throughout the ages.

        Only during the 20th century when the agents of satan succeeded in controlling the institutions which govern man did man find it much harder to search for God's messages. Ever wonder why the media is so much of a controlled puppet nowadays. In the US ever wonder why both house of Congress pursue the same crappy, murderous policies which bring nothing but misery. Ever wonder why laws are now being introduced which are designed to take away your freedoms.

        The Bible is not outdated. God does not change and the ways of goodness never change.

        There is no such thing as moral relativity. You either commit a moral, amoral or immoral acts.
        Last edited by mokmokv2; 11-21-2012, 04:03 PM.

        Comment


        • Originally posted by mokmokv2 View Post
          On the contrary God has been communicating constantly throughout the ages.

          Only during the 20th century when the agents of satan succeeded in controlling the institutions which govern man did man find it much harder to search for God's messages. Ever wonder why the media is so much of a controlled puppet nowadays. In the US ever wonder why both house of Congress pursue the same crappy, murderous policies which bring nothing but misery. Ever wonder why laws are now being introduced which are designed to take away your freedoms.

          The Bible is not outdated. God does not change and the ways of goodness never change.

          There is no such thing as moral relativity. You either commit a moral, amoral or immoral acts.
          Why is satan so powerful?

          Seems like god should have no problems destroying him.

          Comment


          • Originally posted by [ DUBBZZ ] View Post
            Why is satan so powerful?

            Seems like god should have no problems destroying him.
            it is quite simple dubzz my man... The One needs evil to be relevant... evil for all it's ills, is interwoven in the fabric of all existence just as good is... one is meaningless without the other TBH...

            if evil isn't important to The One, He would've destroyed it by now...

            Comment


            • Originally posted by mokmokv2 View Post
              On the contrary God has been communicating constantly throughout the ages.

              Only during the 20th century when the agents of satan succeeded in controlling the institutions which govern man did man find it much harder to search for God's messages.
              This has been the claim made by the religious in every single century since before the bible was finished! Most of the end of days crap in Revelation is in direct reference to the likes of Nero.

              The Bible is not outdated. God does not change and the ways of goodness never change.

              There is no such thing as moral relativity. You either commit a moral, amoral or immoral acts.
              How many witches have you killed? Is the right way of treating disobedient children to stone them to death? Should women who are raped in the town be killed by all the town alongside her attacker? If she was a virgin should she be forced to marry him?

              Comment


              • Originally posted by [ DUBBZZ ] View Post
                Why is satan so powerful?

                Seems like god should have no problems destroying him.
                satan will have his due time. And it is very near.

                If you knew that out of every soul that goes to heaven, 33 damned soul goes to hell.

                That's a 1-33 ratio. Now if you knew that's the percentage of people going to heaven and hell, for certain you will NEVER STOP PRAYING.

                Man damns his soul out of FREEWILL. Tolerance of sin is the greatest sin. Do not tolerate evil acts. A soul only has himself to blame because FREEWILL ensures that one is free to do what he/she wants even if it is evil.

                Here's a testimony of a person who went to hell and was ordered by God to describe hell. She lived a life of prayer and virtue.

                One of the greatest mystics of this century was Sister Josefa Menendez, who died in 1923 at the age of 33. This young Spanish sister, who had a short religious life of great suffering, experienced revelations throughout much of her life, compiled in The Way Of Divine Love. More than once, she was taken to Hell to witness and feel the suffering first-hand. Sister Josefa was reluctant to write on the subject of Hell, and did so only to conform to Our Lord's wishes. Sister Josefa repeatedly dwelt on what she described as the greatest torment of Hell, namely, the soul's inability to love. One of these damned souls cried out: "This is my torture...that I want to love and cannot; there is nothing left me but hatred and despair. If one of us could so much as make a single act of love...But we cannot, we live on hatred and malevolence..." (March 23, 1922).

                She records, too, the accusations made against themselves by these unhappy souls: "Some yell because of the martyrdom of their hands. Perhaps they were thieves, for they say: 'Where is our loot now?' ...Cursed hands... Others curse their tongues, their eyes...whatever was the occasion of sin... 'Now, O body, you are paying the price of the delights you granted yourself!...and you did it of your own free will...'" (April 2, 1922).

                "I saw several souls fall into Hell, and among them was a child of fifteen, cursing her parents for not having taught her to fear God nor that there was a Hell. Her life had been a short one, she said, but full of sin, for she had given in to all that her body and passions demanded in the way of satisfaction..." (March 22, 1923).

                "My soul fell into abysmal depths, the bottom of which cannot be seen, for it is immense...; Then I was pushed into one of those fiery cavities and pressed, as it were, between burning planks, and sharp nails and red-hot irons seemed to be piercing my flesh. I felt as if they were endeavoring to pull out my tongue, but could not. This torture reduced me to such agony that my very eyes seemed to be starting out of their sockets. I think this was because of the fire which burns, burns ... not a finger nail escapes terrifying torments, and all the time one cannot move even a finger to gain some relief, not change posture, for the body seems flattened out and [yet] doubled in two. Sounds of confusion and blasphemy cease not for an instant. A sickening stench asphyxiates and corrupts everything, it is like the burning of putrefied flesh, mingled with tar and sulphur ... a mixture to which nothing on earth can be compared... although these tortures were terrific, they would be bearable if the soul were at peace. But it suffers indescribably... All I have written," she concluded, "is but a shadow of what the soul suffers, for no words can express such dire torment." (September 4, 1922).

                "Today, I saw a vast number of people fall into the fiery pit . . . they seemed to be worldlings and a demon cried vociferously: 'The world is ripe for me . . . I know that the best way to get hold of souls is to rouse their desire for enjoyment . . . Put me first . . . me before the rest . . . no humility for me! but let me enjoy myself . . . This sort of thing assures victory to me . . . and they tumble headlong into hell.' " (October 4, 1923)

                "Tonight I was transported to a place where all was obscure. . . Around me were seven or eight people; I could see them only by the reflections of the fire. They were seated and were talking together. One said: 'We'll have to be very careful not to be found out, for we might easily be discovered.'

                "The devil answered: 'Insinuate yourselves by inducing carelessness in them . . . but keep in the background, so that you are not found out . . . by degrees they will become callous, and you will be able to incline them to evil. Tempt these others to ambition, to self-interest, to acquiring wealth without working, whether it be lawful or not. Excite some to sensuality and love of pleasure. Let vice blind them . . . As to the remainder . . . get in through the heart . . . you know the inclinations of their hearts . . . make them love . . .love passionately . . . work thoroughly . . . take no rest . . . have no pity. Let them cram themselves with food! It will make it all the easier for us . . . Let them get on with their banqueting. Love of pleasure is the door through which you will reach them . . .' " (February 3, 1923).

                Comment


                • People who claim to have been to hell are liars. I used to think they were either liars or deluded, now I think they're just liars.

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                    People who claim to have been to hell are liars. I used to think they were either liars or deluded, now I think they're just liars.
                    No.

                    Your FREEWILL (and your misguided belief) led you believe they are even though they are not.

                    It is an extremely frightening prospect for atheists to think about hell. It is no strange fact that most of the souls damned in hell are those who didn't believe hell existed in the first place. If you only knew.

                    Remember sir, your FREEWILL.

                    Comment


                    • Originally posted by mokmokv2 View Post
                      It is a place sir. When our earthly bodies die, the soul only has 3 possible destination depending on the person's actions when he/she was still alive. Heaven, Purgatory or Hell.

                      The thousands upon thousands of people who were fortunate to see heaven and was allowed to go back in order for them to spread the news describe Heaven as a place of infinite beauty. Where everything is plenty and people live in complete harmony. Words cannot begin to describe the majesty of heaven, man's natural inheritance from God.

                      A young woman who was gifted by God paints her visions of heaven, Akiane. A neurosurgeon (scientist) who was a former atheist saw heaven and it's majesty and has written a book about it.

                      The folly of man is that we have been deceived into thinking that the material universe is the all governing reality when in fact it is but a mere curtain to man's rightful destination.

                      The link between God and man is FAITH. Science is nothing but a tool to improve man's life not exalt himself above God.

                      some say heaven is a place where you can screw 72 virgins if you die a martyr...

                      really, it is written in a scripture of some abrahamic religion...

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP