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Emerging Evidence Suggests Weights Do In Fact Slow You Down

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  • #11
    Well, do bodybuilders move fast?
    Lol. Nope. They’re not even athletic.


    It’s okay to lift weights and gain muscle but you have to do it for optimal purposes when it comes to combat sports. Just enough to improve your physical attributes but not enough to hinder the ability to execute the main goal.

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    • #12
      Evidence?

      Everyone has known this for ages... Who needed a study done on this?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by TheReadyTimeBoy View Post
        I dont believe that at all. For example, all the top tier national amateur squads are lifting weights. Compound movements, heavy weight, low reps. It does not make you slower. Thats just pure BS. Ive seen the results myself.
        You've never fought an elite fighter...

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post
          You've never fought an elite fighter...
          Yes I have. I fought a guy who went to the Olympics. I've also sparred numerous undefeated pro prospects, one of whom is world ranked.

          I'm far from an elite fighter (although after my comeback which is in the works I will be) but I've definitely got skin in the game. Been around boxing a long time and I know what I'm talking about.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by TheReadyTimeBoy View Post
            Yes I have. I fought a guy who went to the Olympics. I've also sparred numerous undefeated pro prospects, one of whom is world ranked.

            I'm far from an elite fighter (although after my comeback which is in the works I will be) but I've definitely got skin in the game. Been around boxing a long time and I know what I'm talking about.
            Then you'd know lifting weights is a waste of time.

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            • #16
              I took a weight training course for 2 years in high school. I lifted for gain in muscle. When I started the class I was 132lbs. I maxed 95 lbs in the bench press and 110 in squats. During this time I would make sure to stretch a lot. My senior year I maxed bench at 245 and squat at 305. I was fighting 147 at the time. With the stretching
              I don't believe that it affected my speed while punching. I was starching guys in fights while all of this was going on. What it comes down to is stretching your muscles out before training for boxing..…...Rockin'

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post
                Then you'd know lifting weights is a waste of time.
                Dude. LOTS of elite fighters lift. You lack basic knowledge of physiology so you don't understand that not every one who lifts is going to be a muscle bound bodybuilder.

                Look at Rockins post. He used to spar with some of the best fighters around. He had a ton of fights. He says weight lifting made him a better fighter.

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                • #18
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                  • #19
                    Depends what kind of resistance training you are doing? Most people are obsessed with split routines, and exercises that are completely useless 'Vanity exercises etc'.

                    And then you get people who participate in weight lifting, who cannot really master body-weight exercises 'Or have bad flexibility'. You have to start from the bottom up, traditional boxing training had plenty of resistance work.

                    Lets say a kid of 11 years of age decided that he wants to start weight lifting, vs a kid who decides to do traditional boxing training. Which from my experience as a kid involved 'Pretty much every calisthenic exercise in the form or circuit training, plyometrics and some form of roadwork'.

                    The child who had been attending boxing would overall be a better athlete by the time they reach 18 years of age 'I have zero doubt in my mind that this would be the case' there would be just too much scope in their training.

                    Weight training is something to supplement your sport, and there are various different forms. Body building, power-lifting, Olympic lifting, kettle bells etc split routines, full body routines, push and pull splits etc

                    If you are a boxer, and you are doing a body building routine, you are completely wasting your time. A combination of kettle bells, Olympic lifting, calisthenics and full body routines is probably the direction boxers should go IF they want to Incorporate weight lifting.

                    There are many ways you can add resistance. Boxers are in worse condition now as a whole, compared to past generations.
                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-30-2020, 07:59 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Most exercises are weight lifting . Sit-ups and push ups burpees ect.. you are lifting and moving your own body. Adding some added weight beyond your body is clearly helpful Seeing as almost all athletes use some types of weights.
                      Now if you train to look like The hulk you are defiantly going to lose speed that’s obvious. But somewhere out there will be a perfect balance and that may vary from person to person depending on natural abilities and style of boxing.

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