Controversial Alex Kid: If you want to put on weight, put on fat not muscle!

[Jovanny]

If you have strong legs and weak/chubby upper body -- as you suggest -- the power you generate with your legs just vanishes as you hit. Even if you only have weak fists, it's enough to make you weak.

[AlexKid]

If you have strong legs and weak/chubby upper body -- as you suggest -- the power you generate with your legs just vanishes as you hit. Even if you only have weak fists, it's enough to make you weak.

Trolling from the start poorly or now trying to save face by pretending to troll? You decide.

The trick or troll technique is based on a false assumption that if you are slow to realize its a troll you are ******, but even if you are very bright it can be impossible to tell its a troll till later on.

Unoriginal troll attempt.

Troll wasted his time energy and effort I ending up laughing at him hahaha

[AlexKid]

Not that I want to get in the way of this budding romance but fat vs muscle in absorbing shots?????

Muscle is better armor but its only needed on midsection and neck/traps

Maybe muscle and fat together is better than muscle alone or maybe not, fat alone is far inferior. Muscle on the midsection is a must neck appears optional but I would have said its a must

[HedonisticFrog]

Size is poorly correlated with strength although its a definite positive correlation.

You can get alot of mass without much strength increase, so those power lifters in the HW division have a very inefficient strength to size ratio compared to other power lifters in lower classes because it makes no difference if they have extra hypertrophy/calories it may help them a bit so they do it, it doesn't help their strength proportionately like you suggest. - This is not something smart to do in boxing where cardio is a huge factor


Strength has a poor correlation to punching power but again its a positive one so the scientific study is right but they dont show the weak improvement in punching power compared to the big improvement in strength or speed in normal movements.

strength is not poorly correlated to size at all. Lets take a look at usapl american records. I'll leave it at three bench press records but you can see them all here. http://usapl.liftingdatabase.com/records

-53 Mario Leos 130 kg
-59 Mario Leos 150.5 kg
120+ Joseph Cappellino 320 kg

Just increasing the weight limit by 6kg, or 13.2lb increased the bench press record by 20kg, or 44lb. That's a massive difference in bench press compared to the small amount of weight gain. If we look at the open weight class the record is almost three times that of the 53kg weight class.

And with what I demonstrated with my previous scientific study, the stronger you are the harder you hit. So building muscle mass will make you stronger and thus hit harder.

[HedonisticFrog]

Trolling from the start poorly or now trying to save face by pretending to troll? You decide.

The trick or troll technique is based on a false assumption that if you are slow to realize its a troll you are ******, but even if you are very bright it can be impossible to tell its a troll till later on.

Unoriginal troll attempt.

Troll wasted his time energy and effort I ending up laughing at him hahaha

He does have a point. You can have very strong legs, but if your shoulders, arms, and forearms can't transfer the momentum you generate with your legs it's wasted. You only hit as hard as the weakest link allows.

[AlexKid]

strength is not poorly correlated to size at all. Lets take a look at usapl american records. I'll leave it at three bench press records but you can see them all here. http://usapl.liftingdatabase.com/records

-53 Mario Leos 130 kg
-59 Mario Leos 150.5 kg
120+ Joseph Cappellino 320 kg

Just increasing the weight limit by 6kg, or 13.2lb increased the bench press record by 20kg, or 44lb. That's a massive difference in bench press compared to the small amount of weight gain. If we look at the open weight class the record is almost three times that of the 53kg weight class.

And with what I demonstrated with my previous scientific study, the stronger you are the harder you hit. So building muscle mass will make you stronger and thus hit harder.

It is outside the power lifting world


The 130 guys are stronger than Lennox Lewis, meaning Lewis has alot of bulk that doesnt do much except burn oxygen and add weight to the punch like fat could for less oxygen

mY POINT IS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF STRENGTH CAN BE GAINED BEFORE THERE NEEDS TO BE A SIZE INCREASE

PEOPLE ARE PUTTING ON SIZE WAY TOO EARLY BEFORE THEY NEED TO AND CAN GET THE SAME STRENGTH AT A MUCH LESSER SIZE/WEIGHT, THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY BODYBUILDING

I KNOW THIS COULD BE MORE TROLLING BUT I LIKE TEACHING YOU AND YOU LIKE LEARNING FROM ME

[HedonisticFrog]

It is outside the power lifting world


The 130 guys are stronger than Lennox Lewis, meaning Lewis has alot of bulk that doesnt do much except burn oxygen and add weight to the punch like fat could for less oxygen

mY POINT IS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF STRENGTH CAN BE GAINED BEFORE THERE NEEDS TO BE A SIZE INCREASE

PEOPLE ARE PUTTING ON SIZE WAY TOO EARLY BEFORE THEY NEED TO AND CAN GET THE SAME STRENGTH AT A MUCH LESSER SIZE/WEIGHT, THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY BODYBUILDING

I KNOW THIS COULD BE MORE TROLLING BUT I LIKE TEACHING YOU AND YOU LIKE LEARNING FROM ME

If you're just going to rage in all caps and then be condescending then this is over. Have fun being fat and making excuses for it.

[AlexKid]

He does have a point. You can have very strong legs, but if your shoulders, arms, and forearms can't transfer the momentum you generate with your legs it's wasted. You only hit as hard as the weakest link allows.

tHE BONE ALIGNMENT DOES THAT, YOU DONT NEED MUSCLE TO HOLD YOUR ARM OUT STRAIGHT

GO GET A PLASTIC SKELETON STRAIGHTEN OUT THE ARM AND SHOVE IT AGAINST THE WALL

IT WILL MOST LIKELY BE A SOLID HIT

IF YOU GET THE ANGLE WRONG IT WILL BEND AND GIVE AT THE ELBOW

POINT IS IT HAD 0 MUSCLE AND STILL TRANSFERRED TEH FORCE

ALSO AGAIN YOU CAN BE STRONG AND SMALL IN MUSCLE SIZE, SO YOUR POINT IS ******ED

[AlexKid]

if you're just going to rage in all caps and then be condescending then this is over. Have fun being fat and making excuses for it.

lmao


im not raging i left the caps on

im full of stored energy ready to move

[t.n]

I think that the biggest reason that most of the pros aren't fat is because they exercise a lot and it's pretty hard to get fat while exercising that much. And the same reason is behind the sculpture looking bodies if you train around 8 hours a day all week(?) you will end up looking like a sculpture.

I'm pretty new to boxing but that's just my opinion.