Should heavyweights train differently ?

[Sarfpore]

Hi Guys,

Im new to the forum, so forgive me if this is a ****** question. I read somewhere that heavyweights have a much lower punch output per round than welters (in general).

with that in mind, what should a heavyweight do different in the gym ?

Thanks.

[_original_]

I'd say the boxing routine is pretty much the same (shadow, heavybag, jump rope, sparring, ect.), but of coarse, to a certain extent, there's things that a 200+ man can't do that a lightweight can, and vice versa. However, one benefit of being a Heavyweight would be that you can work a lot more on strength training and developing lean muscle/fast twitch muscle fibers since you don't have to worry about outgrowing your weight class.

[Sarfpore]

Thanks, great answer

[Spray_resistant]

Best to do what Shannon Briggs does, just take as many roids as you can and lift as much weight as you can in the gym who cares about boxing technique. Now when it is time to fight you will be really strong and punch hard but will have no stamina past 1 minute into the 2nd round so make sure you ko your opponent in the first.

[lego_boxer]

Yea I kind of see what you mean and would tend to agree.

[Sarfpore]

See, thats exactly what Im trying to avoid. My goal is to get faster and more agile, but I realise I will never be able to move like a welter. So i have to come in somewhere in he middle.

[alohaxchange]

See, thats exactly what Im trying to avoid. My goal is to get faster and more agile, but I realise I will never be able to move like a welter. So i have to come in somewhere in he middle.

getting your legs and tank help with that, i.e. running and roping. I am boxing at super heavy weight right now and it sucks, I am use to being around 200 and bloated up when i hurt my knee last year.

If you look at guys like Mike Lee who walk around maybe 185-190 and he cuts down to 175 he can move really well. Ali, Frazier etc... could go 15 rounds, which is crazy they were both over 200+ and never stopped moving from bell to bell. When I could jump rope 10-20 mins straight 3x3 rounds were way breezier, now it feels like I got done running a marathon. What is your natural weight?

[Sarfpore]

getting your legs and tank help with that, i.e. running and roping. I am boxing at super heavy weight right now and it sucks, I am use to being around 200 and bloated up when i hurt my knee last year.

If you look at guys like Mike Lee who walk around maybe 185-190 and he cuts down to 175 he can move really well. Ali, Frazier etc... could go 15 rounds, which is crazy they were both over 200+ and never stopped moving from bell to bell. When I could jump rope 10-20 mins straight 3x3 rounds were way breezier, now it feels like I got done running a marathon. What is your natural weight?

Thats a good question. I figure if I was in good shape I would be 230 to 240. Right now I am 270, (long story, kids, life, beer). I am not in terrible shape, I can run five miles, workout regular, but I need work for sure. In my rugby days I was told I was exceptionally fast for a guy my size. I can only jump rope for a couple of minutes at a time right now.

[AddiX]

There's certain techniques and styles of fighting that you just won't be taught or told to do as a heavyweight. How your built will also determine a lot of that.

For instance as a heavyweight you learn how to lean on opponents a lot more and how to be leaned on. It's very physically draining, and it's why you see promoters take there time with young heavyweights, those vet heavys know how to wear down young guys quick.

As far as training goes, you shouldn't really see those difference until youve been training for awhile, no matter what weight you are you still need to learn the basics the same as everyone else.

Most people never make it past that part.

[Sarfpore]

So maybe I should be thinking more Klitschko and less JMM. Thing is, I love the welterweights, and then I go in the gym and try to move like them, and I fall over my own feet. Thanks.