The lost art of shifting?

[Hailow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po9Z-vgHkYg

Basically going either southpaw to orthodox. or orthodox to southpaw, while gaining power by transferring weight moving in and out at the same time throwing a punch.
Thoughts?

[DosRounds]

Pirog is a black belt and has these skills. Don't see much other people doing it myself.
See when he knocked out Danny jacobs

[NVSemin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po9Z-vgHkYg

Basically going either southpaw to orthodox. or orthodox to southpaw, while gaining power by transferring weight moving in and out at the same time throwing a punch.
Thoughts?

It is the lost art of fighting uncommonly and unpredictable

[Ray Corso]

The video is BS if your learning boxing! If you shift weight moving forward as he does you will get hurt in a boxing ring!
Shifting weight in boxing is done when your inside fighting and you want to add more power to your punches. The hooks and uppercuts can become stronger shots by dropping (shifting) weight on to the leg side of your body your punching off! Its been an inside technique used for 100 years!!!!
The video has nothing to do with boxing techniques & methods! Ray.

[Hailow]

Hi Ray been reading your post and i find it very knowledgeable glad you stopped by my thread. But does your idea of the shift require stepping in and the same time switching stance to throw a punch i know that margarito and chaves jr have switch stance coming forward.

[Ray Corso]

Changing your stance would not be a good idea as you move in! A solid fighter would look to catch you as your moving your feet forward. Your balance would be offset and thats a problem in boxing.
The old school inside fighters would stay in their stance and simply transfer weight to gain power!
I watched a video of the Priog sp) boxer from Russia and he's very nimble with his steps but he hasn't fought anyone yet from looking at his record!!
He's also at a very safe distance as he "over steps" too. Changing your stance inside or close can be a very dangerous move!
To me it looks as though this young man is doing these moves for esthetic reasons rather than purpose!!!
Its very difficult to learn how to shift weigh from leg to leg alone while inside, to work on stepping lead foot over lead foot just doesn't work for me! Ray

[TheAuthority]

The video is BS if your learning boxing! If you shift weight moving forward as he does you will get hurt in a boxing ring!
The video has nothing to do with boxing techniques & methods! Ray.

I agree.

The move doesn't increase power (it decreases it) and leaves you vulnerable defensively.

I have seen people successfully use the hook whilst changing stance (moving backwards and off at an angle)

I don't think the guy in the video knows what he is talking about to be honest.

[Ray Corso]

To think that punches thrown for a MMA event have anything to do with boxing is wrong! The fact that your lead foot is going to be used to lift and kick already shifts more than 85 to 100% of your weight to the back, in boxing thats a huge mistake!
I've posted before about a heavyweigh who came to me from Gil Clancy for boxing and he was a "full contact" (early mma styled fighting) participant prior. He was a right hander fighting as a southpaw to have his power leg and hand up front! His biggest transformation was getting the distribution of weight in balance! I kept him as a southpaw because he had power in both hands and he mover better as a lefty!
I'm sure theres exceptions but the rule stands pretty firm about mma guys not doing very well in a boxing ring and the biggest problem is balancing..................................and their chins ha! Ray

[IBox85]

Rigo vs Donaire

I know when Donaire got the knock down he switched and caught rigo. Is this an example of a "shift"?

[cameronpaul]

the dempsey roll seems like an ideal shift bit of footwork. and when james toney knocks out mike mcallum in the 11th round he subtly changes to southpaw before he lands a boom overhand left. mike tyson would often throw an right uppercut from southpaw because he changed his legs going forward/backward and pacquiaos 1234 combo where he throws walking forward. loads of examples of what this guy says is shifting. like ray says though, if you get caught mid way through its gonna be nasty. i personaly try to train both stances and switch about, i always try to do what i wouldnt want my opponent doing.