(VIDEO)I did a Mayweather-Ortiz move today in sparring. Is it legal or illegal?

[Japanese Boxing]

I do it constantly because I wasn't held back on by Olympians in my gym. So early on I learned to get dirty because when you;re sparring pros and guys at that level they will do ANYTHING to keep you down. Yeah, I dislike that I have to do it, but it's the sport.

[Rockin']

Johnny demanded that if I was to step in to throw with another pro fighter that I was not to touch gloves before any round, whether it be sparring or a sanctioned bout. Not only was I not to touch gloves I was to take what ever shot they gave me, and I was to make it count. I always touched gloves before the bell, said hello and greeted the corner. As far as I'm concerned once that bell rings it's time to fight.

One of the first lessons Johnny taught me when we began working as a pro. When the bell rings it's time to fight, plain and simple, You can do all the huggin' and kissin' all that you want to after the next bell. A crafty light heavy showed me why you don't touch gloves, the hard way, on the very first day that we all got tgether.

Everybody *****ed when I did it to them. Bronco, Tarrick..... just everybody. In my home gym of Galaxy or any where in Detroit they learned not to touch gloves after the bell starts a round. They knew not to try to touch gloves with me after the bell rings. If I didn't take the shot I would be pulled from the ring and sent on a marathon bag work session, so I always took the shot if they gave it.

Not nice I know. After sparring I just told them that Johnny demands that I do that, they understood but still didn't dig it. Some even tried to counter the unsportsman like gesture.

The bell rings; my mind, eyes and fists only knew to fight until the moment that bell rings again.

Point blank........after the bell you fight, when it rings again you stop. Repeat ......... Rockin'

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

When they even say keep your hands up? He dropped his hands for a reason. Think on that.

I'm sorry. I don't understand the point you're trying to convey.

[sammiza567]

nothing wrong with it. your helping him more than your hurting him. better he learns the lesson to keep his hands up in sparring than in a fight like ortiz. i like your style too. get some more head movement and feints and you can do some serious damage. good **** man. good pro style you sit down on your shots. his pitter patter didnt phase you one bit. but i'd rather see you not take those pitter patter shots in the first place.

[_original_]

A bit cheap and opportunistic, but it would just let me know to be more alert/aware when sparring you.

Did that sparring session stop right there or did it keep going?

[DIB42]

When you started getting inside, you started squaring up and bringing your right hand a little low for my taste. Which is why you started getting hit clean with his left. I imagine alot of it was just a lack of respect for his lack of power, but it's not a good habit to get into.

And to Rockin'... I somewhat agree with Johnny's logic, in our gym (an MMA gym FWIW) we had a group of guys that'd every time they thought they hurt someone they'd stop, apologize (WTF?) touch gloves and continue. It was a terrible habit they were getting into. So we established a 'We only touch gloves before the bell rings' Motto. Unfortunately it comes off as disrespectful, but its a fight. Also you never know if the other guy is going to be dirty.

[Verstyle]

nothing wrong with it. your helping him more than your hurting him. better he learns the lesson to keep his hands up in sparring than in a fight like ortiz. i like your style too. get some more head movement and feints and you can do some serious damage. good **** man. good pro style you sit down on your shots. his pitter patter didnt phase you one bit. but i'd rather see you not take those pitter patter shots in the first place.

I should of recorded todays. I sparred 3 people today. But I understand what you say but pitty pat? How can you elude to that.

[Verstyle]

A bit cheap and opportunistic, but it would just let me know to be more alert/aware when sparring you.

Did that sparring session stop right there or did it keep going?

Stopped. I hurt him numerous time before. Not even trying to

[Pez]

he wasn't trying to kiss you so it's all good.

[greynotsoold]

Johnny demanded that if I was to step in to throw with another pro fighter that I was not to touch gloves before any round, whether it be sparring or a sanctioned bout. Not only was I not to touch gloves I was to take what ever shot they gave me, and I was to make it count. I always touched gloves before the bell, said hello and greeted the corner. As far as I'm concerned once that bell rings it's time to fight.

One of the first lessons Johnny taught me when we began working as a pro. When the bell rings it's time to fight, plain and simple, You can do all the huggin' and kissin' all that you want to after the next bell. A crafty light heavy showed me why you don't touch gloves, the hard way, on the very first day that we all got tgether.

Everybody *****ed when I did it to them. Bronco, Tarrick..... just everybody. In my home gym of Galaxy or any where in Detroit they learned not to touch gloves after the bell starts a round. They knew not to try to touch gloves with me after the bell rings. If I didn't take the shot I would be pulled from the ring and sent on a marathon bag work session, so I always took the shot if they gave it.

Not nice I know. After sparring I just told them that Johnny demands that I do that, they understood but still didn't dig it. Some even tried to counter the unsportsman like gesture.

The bell rings; my mind, eyes and fists only knew to fight until the moment that bell rings again.

Point blank........after the bell you fight, when it rings again you stop. Repeat ......... Rockin'

Alberto Sandoval used to do this...He'd be doing something with another guy off on one side of the ring (this was after he retired) and watching you shadow box on the other side. He'd call you over and, the first time, you'd walk up with your hands down. And he'd whack you in the head with the mitt and tell you to never, ever drop your hands once you were in the ring.