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  • #2
    If technique is the only thing you need to punch like Mike Tyson, why don't more boxers punch like Tyson? Is it that Cus D'Mato had a secret only you and him had? LOL

    Speed, Chin and power are things you are born with. Can you improve you're power and speed? Sure, but to have the raw natural power or Tyson or the incredible speed of Meldrick Taylor, you need to have that in you genetically.

    Why does Usain Bolt run faster than every human being on the planet? Is it technique?
    Last edited by Cuauhtémoc1520; 03-22-2013, 03:37 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View Post
      If technique is the only thing you need to punch like Mike Tyson, why don't more boxers punch like Tyson? Is it that Cus D'Mato had a secret only you and him had? LOL

      Speed, Chin and power are things you are born with. Can you improve you're power and speed? Sure, but to have the raw natural power or Tyson or the incredible speed of Meldrick Taylor, you need to have that in you genetically.

      Why does Usain Bolt run faster than every human being on the planet? Is it technique?
      Its not that simple.

      This is the truth you heard it here first because it came directly from me!

      PUNCHERS ARE BORN AND MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Can some people no matter what never hit hard? = YES

      Are some people just born with the ability to punch hard? = YES

      Are some people in the middle and stay in the middle? = YES

      Are some people in the middle and become great punchers? = YES

      Is there a sliding scale a spectrum that everyone falls on that determins how hard they hit and their genetic potential/limitation in how far they can improve? = YES
      Last edited by AlexKid; 03-22-2013, 04:22 PM.

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      • #4
        For what it's worth Jack Dempsey said that punchers are made, not born. And that it was a common misconception to believe the opposite.

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        • #5
          punchers are made, but being naturally fast and strong definitely help, but 80% of boxers should be able to punch if they really wanted to, it's the mindset nowadays

          people put too much stock on "boxers", where one guy will land 5 bombs and the other 10 jabs and run around and people will make an arguement to the "boxer" winning the round, so ofcourse now more boxers are deciding to pitty pat their way to a decision

          that and the AM system too

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Post
            punchers are made, but being naturally fast and strong definitely help, but 80% of boxers should be able to punch if they really wanted to, it's the mindset nowadays

            people put too much stock on "boxers", where one guy will land 5 bombs and the other 10 jabs and run around and people will make an arguement to the "boxer" winning the round, so ofcourse now more boxers are deciding to pitty pat their way to a decision

            that and the AM system too
            You mean guys like Willie Pep and Nicolino Locche or current day boxers fought smart?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Post
              punchers are made, but being naturally fast and strong definitely help, but 80% of boxers should be able to punch if they really wanted to, it's the mindset nowadays

              people put too much stock on "boxers", where one guy will land 5 bombs and the other 10 jabs and run around and people will make an arguement to the "boxer" winning the round, so ofcourse now more boxers are deciding to pitty pat their way to a decision

              that and the AM system too
              hit more than they hit you thats boxing son

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BarryRobinson View Post
                You mean guys like Willie Pep and Nicolino Locche or current day boxers fought smart?
                not sure what you are asking, but i'll try to clear up my point

                im not saying "boxers" aren't smart, im talking strictly about why their aren't as many punchers as of recently
                im saying nowadays everyone has the "box him" mindset, from the AM's it's touch, touch, rack up points, move to pro's and people keep their same routine so ofcourse we wont be see'ing many punchers when people aren't training for punching power, most nowadays dont condition their knuckles, pad work is a rhythmic flash over commitment to punching and it's a modern mindset more than "a puncher just hasn't been born yet"

                one of the best things fighters are doing now is those big ass gloves and exploding with them, committing with their entire bodies into punches, utilizing proper technique giving us the likes of mikey garcia, nonito donaire

                need to get me these weighted gloves, dumbells are about to tear my elbow off me

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
                  Its not that simple.

                  This is the truth you heard it here first because it came directly from me!

                  PUNCHERS ARE BORN AND MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Can some people no matter what never hit hard? = YES

                  Are some people just born with the ability to punch hard? = YES

                  Are some people in the middle and stay in the middle? = YES

                  Are some people in the middle and become great punchers? = YES

                  Is there a sliding scale a spectrum that everyone falls on that determins how hard they hit and their genetic potential/limitation in how far they can improve? = YES
                  I can agree with that somewhat. Like I said, you can improve speed and power but there is such a thing as natural power you are gifted with.

                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                  For what it's worth Jack Dempsey said that punchers are made, not born. And that it was a common misconception to believe the opposite.
                  Easy for Dempsey to say that..hahah He was one of the hardest punchers ever!

                  Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Post
                  punchers are made, but being naturally fast and strong definitely help, but 80% of boxers should be able to punch if they really wanted to, it's the mindset nowadays

                  people put too much stock on "boxers", where one guy will land 5 bombs and the other 10 jabs and run around and people will make an arguement to the "boxer" winning the round, so ofcourse now more boxers are deciding to pitty pat their way to a decision

                  that and the AM system too
                  Again, you can increase power and speed but I'm talking about that elite level of one punch power. Tyson, Julian Jackson, Foreman, Shavers, Olivares.. I can go on and on.

                  If you notice, all of those guys had different techniques and styles. For example, Joe Lewis hit nothing like Mike Tyson, he was built completely different. He was taller, longer and hard long shots. Where as Tyson or Tua are built short, compact and power came from leverage.

                  Just like some humans are born to run faster, some are born to hit harder or lift more weight naturally. Chin on the other hand is something I believe either you have or you don't. I have yet to see evidence of something that will help your chin. Some say working your neck muscles is the key but I'm not sure.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View Post
                    I can agree with that somewhat. Like I said, you can improve speed and power but there is such a thing as natural power you are gifted with.



                    Easy for Dempsey to say that..hahah He was one of the hardest punchers ever!



                    Again, you can increase power and speed but I'm talking about that elite level of one punch power. Tyson, Julian Jackson, Foreman, Shavers, Olivares.. I can go on and on.

                    If you notice, all of those guys had different techniques and styles. For example, Joe Lewis hit nothing like Mike Tyson, he was built completely different. He was taller, longer and hard long shots. Where as Tyson or Tua are built short, compact and power came from leverage.

                    Just like some humans are born to run faster, some are born to hit harder or lift more weight naturally. Chin on the other hand is something I believe either you have or you don't. I have yet to see evidence of something that will help your chin. Some say working your neck muscles is the key but I'm not sure.
                    I too have yet to see a single thing that actually improves the chin. Everyone is always touting this or that but there doesn't seem to be any empirical data whatsoever. Work out the neck they say. Chew on Pine tar they say.. I wonder if some guys are just made of glass and will always be that way.

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