World champion or a flop ?

[Patrick Marco]

Hello all my name is Patrick and i just joined the forum, hoping to get your opinions on my thoughts and perhabs give me some good advice ?


A little info

I'm 19 years old and i just started at boxning, i've been training/sparing for about 2-3 mounths, 3 times a week for 2 hours.
i weight about 70k (155lbs)
and when i aint at the boxing gym, i use most of my time, practicing at home. bottom line is i LOVE the sport.

My view on boxing

boxing is a sport where you want to hit and get out of the way,
if you master this you have the potential of a world champion.
ofcourse there is ALOT more to it then that, but i leave that out for now.

My abilitys & downsides


I'm very stubborn, and once i get a idea planted into my head i can't get it out, unless someone pokes hole in that idea for me.

So i've been practicing 3 things for hours every day for 3 mounths

Jab - Footwork - 1-2 combo

i belive my jab & 1-2 combo is close to what i call perfect,

My jabs is so fast and so precise that if you blink, you wont see it comming and your head will be snapped back with your nose faceing the cealing,

Power, Speed, Precision, Snap

my jab got it,

I'm sorry i had to tell it to you this way, but now you see how confident i feel about my apoach to boxing. now to the downside.
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Problem Number one

My guard is ALWAYS down (left hand around waist, Right hand around chin, and my trainer yells to me "KEEP THEM UP!"

and im screaming INSIDE my head "WHY HE CAN'T HIT ME"

example 1

the reason he can't hit me is because i'm always a few inches out of reach, while im "dancing" around him, sticking him with my jabs and when he blinks i strike, and get back to my comfort zone before he realises what hit him.

example 2

I can't throw my jab with the same speed and snap when i got my guard is up.
when my "Guard" is up, My reach is way to short and i feel crippled, and out of balance when i throw a jab with the same speed and power im used to,
i just dont see the point, when im not getting hit in the first place.

example 3

When i got my guards up i feel like im like a slow zombie telegraphing every move i make, and i feel i lose all the footwork, i cant "dance" around him with both my guards up, i NEED my arms to be in balance

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Problem number 2

Lets face it, Im 19 years old and I DONT KNOW **** ABOUT BOXING
i've only been boxing for a few mounths i feel like im disrespecting my trainer and the sport,
by not listening to him, by not boxing the way he wants me to box,
cos after all HE got the most experience, and HE knows whats best.
he got so much more knowlage in the sport then me,
and that is a fact.

But deep inside i just feel that, everything he makes me do is wrong, and i dont feel in balance.
and i feel the way im boxing now, is the only way to box correctly (FOR ME!)

(ofcourse i'm not saying i box perfectly cos i can see alot of mistakes flaws and errors when i do diffrent things in the ring.

but most importantly i can feel it, but im new and i got alot more to learn.

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Problem Number 3

After 1 hour of warmup we start sparring, and the whole sparring session is the problem for me, cos i dont want to hurt my sparring partner,
i feel like im really holding back.
when i see a opening, for my Hooks/uppercuts
i NEVER throw them cos they hurt way to much.

and that is a problem for me cos i never get to practice hitting with my Hooks/uppercuts or power shots,

and i caught my self in APOLEGIZING to my sparring partner that i hit him with a clean left hook (50% power) and when i was on my way home i was thinking of the sparring match, (did i just apolegise for hitting him in a boxing match) ?

So my questions are

1) Should i keep boxing the way i want to, the way i feel is right ?
or should i do everything my trainer tells me ? (keeping my guards up at all times)

2) how do i tell my trainer that im not disrespecting him, when im not doing what he says ?

3) I know im thinking to much of my self, but is it something i should change ?

4) What should i do about the sparring matches, i want to learn EVERYTHING
but how can i learn powershots if i dont allow my self to throw them ?

5) What do you think of my views on boxing ?

6) Do you think i can be anything in the boxing world based on what you read?

7) positive and negative

p.s sorry for my spelling errors
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Patrick M.R - The upcomming world champion !

[Barn]

To put it simply don't run before you can walk.

[Patrick Marco]

you dont answer any of the questions tho :S

[Barn]

you dont answer any of the questions tho :S

You've been boxing for 2 or 3 months. Listen to your trainer and if you do not feel what he's saying is benefiting you tell him, not us.

Dreams of being a world champ should be reserved or if it goes downhill you're going to get really disheartened. Take each step as it comes and don't rush in.

[T-97]

You sound majorly overconfident, no offence intended bro.

You've been training for less than three months, your jab is no where near perfect. I don't need to even see it to tell you that.

As for having your hands down, yes you can box like that... but learn to box first. If you keep on ignoring your trainer and doing what your doing, you'll end up being hit a lot as you won't have the defensive ability or reflexes to avoid punches like that this early in your training.

Good luck though man, you sound very enthusiastic which is the most important thing. You also sound a bit like me, when I started I always wanted to fight in a flashy style and my trainer drilled me our of it.

Bottom line, listen to your trainer.

[Patrick Marco]

Thanks alot !!

i love your feed back, that was why i made this thread, keep it up !

i know my jabs aint perfect, no question about that
and thats why i work on it for atleast a hour each any everyday,

but the buttom line is, if i hit say 80% of my jabs i throw and not once getting hit back i must be doing something right ?

compared to when i try and fight like any other boxer with guards up, i dont hit as often and i get hit all the time (not clean but on my gloves) witch still hurts :P
and its all about not being hurt isnt it hehe please more feedback

i know there is more to it then that :P but i just don't see why i shoulndt dodge a blow entirely then take a blow on my gloves,

ofc you can use it positioning your self better to throw a punch back
witch i do ! , but i just dont see the point in running around with guards up all the time when im out of reach anyways

[moneymayforever]

can't you go to the gym like 5~6 times a week?

[Patrick Marco]

No im afraid not );

the boxing gym is only open for 2 hours 3 days a week, 1 hour fitness and 1 hour sparring,

i know its not the training scheduel of champions,, thats why i use hours everyday at home practicing my ways of boxing.

Afterall its not the gym there makes you a good boxer is it :P

[Redd Foxx]

Patrick, if you don't listen to your coach then all those hours of training are just creating bad habits that you're ingraining into your muscle memory. I did that for years and when I finally found a good coach it took him a few minutes to show me everything I was doing wrong.

Would you skydive with an instructor who has never actually done it? Then why teach yourself boxing when you already said you don't know **** about it?

As far as being able to land your jab 80% of the time and not get hit, it means nothing when you're against other beginners. No offense, but your bragging makes you come across as being insecure, and that's ok. Most people get into combat sports because they are battling insecurities. Just trust in your coach and know that boxing is a science. There is a method and all of the modern greats have followed this method in some respect. There are SO many levels that you aren't even aware exist yet. Just give it time.

[Spartacus Sully]

there is a point in any atheletes life where instead of thinking he just does, a combination of ingraved knowledge and instinct.

you severly lack the knowledge to rely on your instinct.

like if some one punches at you, your instinct is to block it with a free hand or move out of its way, but punches come from diffrent directions and if you just randomly use hands to parry or block you could leave yourself wide open, or find your self fighting not just the punch but leverage too and if you just randonmly slip and weave you could be finding your self slipping right into an uppercut or a hook or a straight.

you need knowledge to know which hand parrys which punch which hand blocks which punch when you need to slip to the outside, when you can slip to the inside, ect and when you have that knowledge and its been ingraved into you though years of practice then you can start relying on your instincts.

as far as the guard, when you lower your center of gravity it makes it easier to bob and weave i.e. lowering your hands, but a good boxer trains hard to move just as fast with his guard up.


Listen to your coach, cause right now any one that can apply pressure and faint would pwn you.