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  • #11
    Originally posted by chico 305 View Post
    why you didnt bold ?

    however, Cr supplementation may improve submaximal exercise performance."


    and



    Significant improvements in VO2PEAK and VO2PEAKTTE occurred in both training groups. Only the Cr group significantly improved VT (16% vs. 10% improvement in PL). No changes occurred in TWD in any group.
    I didn't bold that because the main point of your post was that it boosted your maximal performance.

    Regarding your second point; if it doesn't affect TWD, then what difference does it make?
    Last edited by as646; 03-12-2012, 06:16 PM.

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    • #12
      I got 500g of Creatine free with a 5kg protein concentrate order.

      I have used most of it and it's nothing special.

      Creatine is another over-hyped supplement by the fitness industry. The studies have had pretty mixed results which isn't a good sign.

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      • #13
        Update Ive been talking creatine for a little over a week and they say this is when it kicks in and it does WORK. Its not like the pre workout No3 supplement energy but just more strength. Your muscles dont get tired that quick and my punches are significantly stronger and I have better endurance.. This stuff works.

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        • #14
          On a cold Friday afternoon, I had come home from school. I had been thinking of the gym all day. I was hungry, didn't have any lunch. In fact, I didn't eat because I spent the money. For the past month I was saving up for something. Something special which I bought at GNC. I was surprised they didn't ask for ID; I was pretty sure the cashier noticed how nervous I was. Anyways, my mom asked my how my day was when I got home, but I ignored her. I have more important things to do. I run to the bathroom and unpack my bag. In my school bag is a white plastic bag from GNC. I open the bag, first removing the receipt and flushing it down the toilet to get rid of the evidence. My heart was racing now. I unpack the creatine monster from the bag.

          I wonder what people will be asking me when they see that I will be 50lbs heavier. Should I say I was just eating a lot? I remove the label from the tub and tear it into a thousand small pieces. I flush that down the toilet, too. It is time now. I run up to my room when my mom ask me what I am holding. I panic, sweat drips down my forehead and my teeth chatter. "Mom, it's just for a school project". "What project?" "I don't know mom I just started it!". A tear runs down my cheek. I run upstairs and open the creatine, scooping upservings into a clear water bottle. What have I gotten myself into? I fill it with water and drink it. There is no turning back now. The creatine monster is inside me now, it will control me. What should I do if I die? I cant let my family know about this.

          I open the creatine tub and throw it all out the window; a white cloud of mysterious dust sparkles into the wind so graciously. I feel the substance taking control of me; I am now the monster. I walk downstairs, its time to work out; time to get big. Now I worry, I don't want to get too big; people will think I use steroids. I do use steroids. No I don't. Creatine. All I see is the weights now, I am almost downstairs when I hear "Do you want a cookie I just baked". I know I do not have time for this **** now. "No mom I do not want a cookie" I walk in the basement and drop to my knees before the weights, tears running down my cheeks. I turn to the right and look at myself in the mirror. Oh god, what have I done?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by akScoundrel View Post
            On a cold Friday afternoon, I had come home from school. I had been thinking of the gym all day. I was hungry, didn't have any lunch. In fact, I didn't eat because I spent the money. For the past month I was saving up for something. Something special which I bought at GNC. I was surprised they didn't ask for ID; I was pretty sure the cashier noticed how nervous I was. Anyways, my mom asked my how my day was when I got home, but I ignored her. I have more important things to do. I run to the bathroom and unpack my bag. In my school bag is a white plastic bag from GNC. I open the bag, first removing the receipt and flushing it down the toilet to get rid of the evidence. My heart was racing now. I unpack the creatine monster from the bag.

            I wonder what people will be asking me when they see that I will be 50lbs heavier. Should I say I was just eating a lot? I remove the label from the tub and tear it into a thousand small pieces. I flush that down the toilet, too. It is time now. I run up to my room when my mom ask me what I am holding. I panic, sweat drips down my forehead and my teeth chatter. "Mom, it's just for a school project". "What project?" "I don't know mom I just started it!". A tear runs down my cheek. I run upstairs and open the creatine, scooping upservings into a clear water bottle. What have I gotten myself into? I fill it with water and drink it. There is no turning back now. The creatine monster is inside me now, it will control me. What should I do if I die? I cant let my family know about this.

            I open the creatine tub and throw it all out the window; a white cloud of mysterious dust sparkles into the wind so graciously. I feel the substance taking control of me; I am now the monster. I walk downstairs, its time to work out; time to get big. Now I worry, I don't want to get too big; people will think I use steroids. I do use steroids. No I don't. Creatine. All I see is the weights now, I am almost downstairs when I hear "Do you want a cookie I just baked". I know I do not have time for this **** now. "No mom I do not want a cookie" I walk in the basement and drop to my knees before the weights, tears running down my cheeks. I turn to the right and look at myself in the mirror. Oh god, what have I done?
            wtf did i just read

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            • #16
              I gotta disagree with the whole 'stop using it you deflate' thing. Yes, you lose your water retention so you do lose a bit of size but if your using creatine then you should be working out harder than you did before (otherwise why use the stuff) so when you do lose that water retention you are left with bigger muscles than before, obviously not as big as when you were taking the stuff but bigger than before you started taking it. That's the point of it, imo. if you just take creatine and carry on with the same workout as before then not alot is gona happen, your just gonna bulk up on water. You need to increase your work load with it

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              • #17
                I've taken it on and off for 15 years. Yes, it works well in boxing because it improves your muscular endurance. Yes, you can keep a little of your gains afterward because it's helping you train harder, not just puffing you up. I no longer take it because I can't stand the bloat. 10lbs of water retention, not a good look for me.
                Still an extremely effective supp though.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by akScoundrel View Post
                  On a cold Friday afternoon, I had come home from school. I had been thinking of the gym all day. I was hungry, didn't have any lunch. In fact, I didn't eat because I spent the money. For the past month I was saving up for something. Something special which I bought at GNC. I was surprised they didn't ask for ID; I was pretty sure the cashier noticed how nervous I was. Anyways, my mom asked my how my day was when I got home, but I ignored her. I have more important things to do. I run to the bathroom and unpack my bag. In my school bag is a white plastic bag from GNC. I open the bag, first removing the receipt and flushing it down the toilet to get rid of the evidence. My heart was racing now. I unpack the creatine monster from the bag.

                  I wonder what people will be asking me when they see that I will be 50lbs heavier. Should I say I was just eating a lot? I remove the label from the tub and tear it into a thousand small pieces. I flush that down the toilet, too. It is time now. I run up to my room when my mom ask me what I am holding. I panic, sweat drips down my forehead and my teeth chatter. "Mom, it's just for a school project". "What project?" "I don't know mom I just started it!". A tear runs down my cheek. I run upstairs and open the creatine, scooping upservings into a clear water bottle. What have I gotten myself into? I fill it with water and drink it. There is no turning back now. The creatine monster is inside me now, it will control me. What should I do if I die? I cant let my family know about this.

                  I open the creatine tub and throw it all out the window; a white cloud of mysterious dust sparkles into the wind so graciously. I feel the substance taking control of me; I am now the monster. I walk downstairs, its time to work out; time to get big. Now I worry, I don't want to get too big; people will think I use steroids. I do use steroids. No I don't. Creatine. All I see is the weights now, I am almost downstairs when I hear "Do you want a cookie I just baked". I know I do not have time for this **** now. "No mom I do not want a cookie" I walk in the basement and drop to my knees before the weights, tears running down my cheeks. I turn to the right and look at myself in the mirror. Oh god, what have I done?
                  Am I the only poster that finds this hilarious?

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                  • #19
                    Funny *****! One guy tries very hard to be scientific and intelectual in efforts to prove creatine works but you didn't explain how it actually helps build muscle mass. The only thing supporting your argument is it helped a group of people during HIIT, which can also be done with H2O, electrolytes, amino acids and yes carb energy drinks. The only guys that promotes creatine are yolked out paid bodybuilders G. LOL!

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                    • #20
                      Creatine works by reducing and or delaying the lactic acid buildup in the muscles, which causes fatigue, so you can work out longer, resulting in more gains.

                      Easy as that. You don't retain water unless you are using some 1990s creatine. Otherwise, no, you don't. That is a complete bs. Transporting water to the muscle groups being used, does not equate retaining water.

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