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    Last edited by AnthonyJunior; 04-04-2012, 10:24 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by AnthonyJunior View Post
    Does creatine improve performance in boxing since it creates more atp? Anybody used creatine before please share if it made you better or worst?
    Never taken it, but I would imagine boxing and rapidly putting on muscle aren't the best mix. More muscle means more oxygen requirements, so unless your aerobic capacity increases by a proportional amount as well, you're going to end up getting tired out faster.

    AFAIK, Creatine helps with anaerobic exercise, but does little or nothing to help with aerobic.

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    • #3
      Imo its unnecessary. Tho it does help a little with muscle growth/strength, it helps alot more with water retention. Expect to put on alot of water weight compared to muscle, maybe like a 5 to 1 ratio. Creatine is natural, found in meats and such, and i would suggest just having a healthy balanced diet drinking plenty of fluids.

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      • #4
        nope soon as you stop taking it you will deflate

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        • #5
          these people above are idiots and assume creatine is solely taken by bodybuilders to gain water weight mass


          buy Creatine Mono and take 3 grams a day, no need to load, take up to 5 grams a day if ull like but start with 3 grams for the first week to avoid stomach issues.


          Creatine and HIIT training goes hand in hand. Google it.

          AllMax Nutrition German Creatine MONO would be one I recommend

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          • #6
            The benefits of high-intensity interval training are pretty well known these days, far more than they were a decade ago. Creatine, an exercise supplement, is also well known.

            Do the two work together? That, as Shakespeare once said, is the question. (Not that he knows much about running.)

            High intensity interval training is highly effective at resulting in many of the same physical adaptations as normal endurance training – just in a much faster manner. It specifically helps to build your peak aerobic capacity, or VO2 max, which contributes to developing your maximum effort output.

            Creatine works to develop skeletal muscle, which makes it very popular with athletes of all walks of life. Some runners do not see the benefit it offers to runners, but as with any athletic event, running well requires strong muscles.

            A team of researchers at the University of Oklahoma decided to pursue the notion of creatine used in conjunction with HIIT to determine if these two training methods have a complementary effect. They took a group of forty-three men and subjected them to a series of tests to determine a measurements, such as VO2 max, time to exhaustion (VO2TTE), ventilatory threshold (VT), and total work done (TWD).

            The group was then divided into three other groups. The first group, group A, was given creatine; the second group, group B, was given a placebo; and the third group, group C, was the control group. Group A and B also conducted four weeks of HIIT.

            As expected, group A and group B both improved their VO2 max and VO2TTE (how long they can run at VO2 max rates). VT was only improved in group A, the group with creatine. TWD did not improve in either group.

            What do these results mean? Well, for starters, HIIT proved to be effective at increasing VO2 max in all runners. Creatine was also helpful in improving VT, which is the measure of how long you can exercise before your muscles become too fatigued.

            Therefore, by using a combination of HIIT and creatine, a runner can boost his or her maximal performance while also boosting his or her submaximal performance – which is measured by VT.


            If Shakespeare had been a physiologist, he would have written this in a much more poetic manner. As it is, I’m sure he’d still agree nonetheless.

            Graef JL, Smith AE, Kendall KL, ***uda DH, Moon JR, Beck TW, Cramer JT, Stout JR. The effects of four weeks of creatine supplementation and high-intensity interval training on cardiorespiratory fitness: a randomized controlled trial. J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 12, 6:18.

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            • #7
              we do what ever appears to give us results....period

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chico 305 View Post
                The benefits of high-intensity interval training are pretty well known these days, far more than they were a decade ago. Creatine, an exercise supplement, is also well known.

                Do the two work together? That, as Shakespeare once said, is the question. (Not that he knows much about running.)

                High intensity interval training is highly effective at resulting in many of the same physical adaptations as normal endurance training – just in a much faster manner. It specifically helps to build your peak aerobic capacity, or VO2 max, which contributes to developing your maximum effort output.

                Creatine works to develop skeletal muscle, which makes it very popular with athletes of all walks of life. Some runners do not see the benefit it offers to runners, but as with any athletic event, running well requires strong muscles.

                A team of researchers at the University of Oklahoma decided to pursue the notion of creatine used in conjunction with HIIT to determine if these two training methods have a complementary effect. They took a group of forty-three men and subjected them to a series of tests to determine a measurements, such as VO2 max, time to exhaustion (VO2TTE), ventilatory threshold (VT), and total work done (TWD).

                The group was then divided into three other groups. The first group, group A, was given creatine; the second group, group B, was given a placebo; and the third group, group C, was the control group. Group A and B also conducted four weeks of HIIT.

                As expected, group A and group B both improved their VO2 max and VO2TTE (how long they can run at VO2 max rates). VT was only improved in group A, the group with creatine. TWD did not improve in either group.

                What do these results mean? Well, for starters, HIIT proved to be effective at increasing VO2 max in all runners. Creatine was also helpful in improving VT, which is the measure of how long you can exercise before your muscles become too fatigued.

                Therefore, by using a combination of HIIT and creatine, a runner can boost his or her maximal performance while also boosting his or her submaximal performance – which is measured by VT.


                If Shakespeare had been a physiologist, he would have written this in a much more poetic manner. As it is, I’m sure he’d still agree nonetheless.

                Graef JL, Smith AE, Kendall KL, ***uda DH, Moon JR, Beck TW, Cramer JT, Stout JR. The effects of four weeks of creatine supplementation and high-intensity interval training on cardiorespiratory fitness: a randomized controlled trial. J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 12, 6:18.
                I went and had a look at this paper.

                "In conclusion, HIIT is an effective and time-efficient way to improve maximal endurance performance. The addition of Cr improved VT [ventilatiory threshold], but did not increase TWD [total work done]. Therefore, 10 g of Cr per day for five days per week for four weeks does not seem to further augment maximal oxygen consumption, greater than HIIT alone; however, Cr supplementation may improve submaximal exercise performance."

                So in a nutshell, your claims are pretty much unfounded according to the very paper you site as a reference.

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                • #9
                  nope soon as you stop taking it you will deflate

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by as646 View Post
                    I went and had a look at this paper.

                    "In conclusion, HIIT is an effective and time-efficient way to improve maximal endurance performance. The addition of Cr improved VT [ventilatiory threshold], but did not increase TWD [total work done]. Therefore, 10 g of Cr per day for five days per week for four weeks does not seem to further augment maximal oxygen consumption, greater than HIIT alone; however, Cr supplementation may improve submaximal exercise performance."

                    So in a nutshell, your claims are pretty much unfounded according to the very paper you site as a reference.
                    why you didnt bold ?

                    however, Cr supplementation may improve submaximal exercise performance."


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                    Significant improvements in VO2PEAK and VO2PEAKTTE occurred in both training groups. Only the Cr group significantly improved VT (16% vs. 10% improvement in PL). No changes occurred in TWD in any group.
                    Last edited by chico 305; 03-12-2012, 05:15 PM.

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